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Rove says temporary worker program needed
AP ^ | 02 Nov 2007 | AP

Posted on 11/03/2007 10:24:32 AM PDT by BGHater

ODESSA, Texas (AP) - President Bush's former deputy chief of staff, Karl Rove, says the government will need a temporary worker program to be successful with immigration reform.

Rove said the program is needed reduce pressure on the nation's border security apparatus. But he says the details of such a program haven't been explained to the American public well.

He also says the U.S. Border Patrol will need to be doubled and its budget tripled with 300 miles of fence built.

The comments came yesterday as part of the John Ben Shepperd Public Leadership Institute's Distinguished Lecture Series at the University of Texas of the Permian Basin in Odessa.

About the 2008 presidential race, Rove said he favored the Republican nominee but said Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton could have a chance of winning because she has "a machine around her."


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; guestworkers; immigration; immigrationreform; rove; worker
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1 posted on 11/03/2007 10:24:33 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

I disagree with rove on this. deportations are in order immediately. put all americans to work.


2 posted on 11/03/2007 10:25:42 AM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: BGHater

some would argue the same. The devils are in the details. I have no trouble with temporary workers if:

1) We know who you are

2) We know where you are living

3) We know what you are doing

4) You are not voting or breaking the law.


3 posted on 11/03/2007 10:26:13 AM PDT by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: BGHater
Just don’t see how jorge makes it without rove, guess he has someone else hold the toilet tissue now.
4 posted on 11/03/2007 10:26:37 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: BGHater

Deport Rove


5 posted on 11/03/2007 10:28:15 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: BGHater

Since Rove is no longer employed, he should start a line.


6 posted on 11/03/2007 10:28:32 AM PDT by Howie66 (To the RAT Party: How can I question your patriotism? You have none, so what's your point?)
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To: BGHater

Notice Rove never says anything about the spending side of things. This is what happens when you have a purely poliitical hack calling the shots


7 posted on 11/03/2007 10:29:59 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Regulator

Go back to DU.


8 posted on 11/03/2007 10:30:12 AM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: Perdogg
I have no trouble with temporary workers if:

1) We know who you are

2) We know where you are living

3) We know what you are doing

4) You are not voting or breaking the law.

5) You come here legally with a work sponsor

6) You don't bring family, much less extended family

7) You leave when the sponsored job is completed

9 posted on 11/03/2007 10:31:43 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: BGHater

We will know the elites are serious when:

President Bush pardons Ramos and Compean.


10 posted on 11/03/2007 10:32:01 AM PDT by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: BGHater

right. throw in the towel.


11 posted on 11/03/2007 10:32:08 AM PDT by 4buttons
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To: Perdogg
And either you or your employer puts down a significant deposit which will be refunded when you check-in with ICE on your way out.
12 posted on 11/03/2007 10:32:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: BGHater

“President Bush’s former deputy chief of staff, Karl Rove, says the government will need a temporary worker program to be successful with immigration reform.”

What a jerk! Apparently this idiot hasn’t checked out what a big success the temporary worker programs have been in Eurabia. Here’s a guarantee; given the infatuation the Republican elites have with TROP and that of the Dems with getting plenty of illegals to vote for them, left up to them this country will be overrun with Mohammedans and Hispanics within 15 years. Guys like Rove should be tried for treason.


13 posted on 11/03/2007 10:33:02 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: KarlInOhio

Thank you, that’s a good idea.


14 posted on 11/03/2007 10:33:09 AM PDT by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: EternalVigilance; 2ndDivisionVet; T.L.Sink; fieldmarshaldj; Norman Bates; JulieRNR21; ...

Karl Rove’s genius has really failed him on the immigration issue.


15 posted on 11/03/2007 10:33:20 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

amen!


16 posted on 11/03/2007 10:33:47 AM PDT by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: BGHater

We already have temporary worker programs, which have several million working in this country legally.


17 posted on 11/03/2007 10:34:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: KarlInOhio
And either you or your employer puts down a significant deposit which will be refunded when you check-in with ICE on your way out.

I like your idea, wish I'd thought of it first

18 posted on 11/03/2007 10:36:51 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Kolokotronis
Rove. You are washed up , over , beat. Go home shut up ! Go work for cankles , she will love you . We are all sick of the new tone , cheek turning stumble bum approach. This liar will end up shilling for mexico. I’ll bet on it.
19 posted on 11/03/2007 10:37:06 AM PDT by fantom
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To: golfisnr1
Go back to DU

Oh my, how creative. You pulled your finger out of your nose long enough to type that out? How industrious of you.

20 posted on 11/03/2007 10:37:09 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: BGHater
To paraphrase SNL and Imus, Karl, shame on all you not-so-ignorant ...


(Enforcement WORKS - Illegal) Hispanic Families Begin Packing Up & Moving Out (OKLAHOMA)


21 posted on 11/03/2007 10:38:49 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: BGHater
But he says the details of such a program haven't been explained to the American public well.

You only had eight years to do it, Karl.

There are a whole lot of things y'all failed to explain well. Even when you had it right. Which in this case you didn't.

22 posted on 11/03/2007 10:39:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP is now being chaired by the political directors at NBCBSABCNNFOX..)
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To: BGHater
Rove said the program is needed reduce pressure on the nation's border security apparatus.

Wow, we have a border security apparatus. Who knew?!

23 posted on 11/03/2007 10:40:08 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Perdogg

I would add a few conditions such as temporary stay, no children, and financial assistance pledge for health care. I am not sure how these and other conditions would be enforced. Adding conditions increases the cost of guest workers leading to incentives to cheat. Cutting off welfare for guest workers and illegals is necessary.

The rats will never agree to a guest worker program that removes incentives. The rats want more welfare and government dependency. Illegal aliens are the best customers for the rat plans.


24 posted on 11/03/2007 10:42:39 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: BGHater

A slave labor, sub human caste system is what they want.

Ultra cheap labor for the Repubicans and victim/voters for the Democrats.

All on the backs of the taxpaying American.


25 posted on 11/03/2007 10:43:22 AM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: BGHater

A temporary worker program is needed?As usual the egg heads in DC(aka intellectual/cultural elite)have it backwards.First:1)Start deporting the illegals already here.2)Build a wall,barbed wire,electronic suveilance,whatever it takes to secure the border.3)Hire additional border guards as needed.Then we can talk about a “temporary worker program”.


26 posted on 11/03/2007 10:43:28 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: donna

“elites are serious when:

President Bush pardons Ramos and Compean”

BTT!


27 posted on 11/03/2007 10:44:46 AM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: BGHater

Here’s a clip with the details on Bush’s original plan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQM-4q099A

Just how horrific a scheme that was didn’t get the attention it deserves. They wanted it to be open to almost every type of job.


28 posted on 11/03/2007 10:45:43 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: BGHater
Karl Rove, says the government will need a temporary worker program to be successful with immigration reform.

One can only shudder at the thought of what Karl Rove imagines success with immigration reform to be.

Amnesty for 20 million, continued illegal inflow, add additional temporary worker program on top.

29 posted on 11/03/2007 10:47:06 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: BGHater
Actually, this so called "Temporary Worker Program" is nothing new in the US.

There has been a Temporary Work Program Visas in effect with the USINS for at least the past 40-50 years.

Why don't they just use those.

I have also been puzzled by the issuing of drivers licenses to illegals in this country.

Don't they have licenses to drive from their country of origin? If they don't, couldn't they just apply for an international drivers license?

Why do we need more bureaucracy?

30 posted on 11/03/2007 10:49:24 AM PDT by R_Kangel ("Please insert witty tag-line here")
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Hey Carl, STFU. You had a chance to do something about border security. FOAD , chump


31 posted on 11/03/2007 10:49:45 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Perdogg
Add:

5) You work in an industry that has a documented need.

6) You can never ever become an American citizen (OK, maybe for VERY exceptional circumstances with congressional approval).

7) You are entitled to no public benefits, including government schools for your children. Speaking of which...

8) You agree not to have children here, and if you do you are immediately deported and charged with all the expenses associated with the birth.

9) You pay all taxes including social security, but you never can collect social security.

10) A portion (10%?) off your gross earnings goes into an account maintained by your employer sponsor to pay for any damages assessed against you (auto wrecks, etc.). If 4 years after you complete the temporary worker stint and have returned to your country of origin there are no claims, you get the money, without interest.

32 posted on 11/03/2007 10:50:25 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: EternalVigilance

We all remember when Karl didn’t want to talk about illegal aliens. Tancredo especially remembers when he was told by Rove not to darken the white house door.


33 posted on 11/03/2007 10:50:42 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: YellowRoseofTx

See my post #32. You posted while I was typing.


34 posted on 11/03/2007 10:51:43 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: texastoo

I heard that, but I haven’t seen any real proof of that.


35 posted on 11/03/2007 10:51:48 AM PDT by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: BGHater

The only “temporary” plan that would possibly fly would be for seasonal farm workers who would come for a few months for the harvest and then return home. Other than possibly that - NO WAY, NO HOW!!!!!


36 posted on 11/03/2007 10:53:41 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Perdogg

Tancredo stated this on TV in this Republican debate. I heard it. You can read about it here:

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/tancredo-tells-bush-to-take-a-hike-2007-06-05.html


37 posted on 11/03/2007 10:59:48 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: YellowRoseofTx
I have no trouble with temporary workers if: 1) We know who you are 2) We know where you are living 3) We know what you are doing 4) You are not voting or breaking the law. 5) You come here legally with a work sponsor 6) You don't bring family, much less extended family 7) You leave when the sponsored job is completed

8) Offspring created while in the USA do not automatically become citizens of this country.

38 posted on 11/03/2007 11:00:08 AM PDT by pointsal (q)
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To: BGHater
ODESSA, Texas (AP) - President Bush's former deputy chief of staff, Karl Rove, says the government will need a temporary worker program to be successful with immigration reform.

Rove said the program is needed reduce pressure on the nation's border security apparatus. But he says the details of such a program haven't been explained to the American public well. He also says the U.S. Border Patrol will need to be doubled and its budget tripled with 300 miles of fence built.

The comments came yesterday as part of the John Ben Shepperd Public Leadership Institute's Distinguished Lecture Series at the University of Texas of the Permian Basin in Odessa.

About the 2008 presidential race, Rove said he favored the Republican nominee but said Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton could have a chance of winning because she has "a machine around her."

WELL, TWO OUT OF THREE AIN'T BAD.... /sarc

Karl...we share the same b-day, but not the same mind on illegals.

NEED REAL SOLUTIONS, KARL??? - ASK SHERIFF JOE (ARPAYO) !!!!!

39 posted on 11/03/2007 11:04:32 AM PDT by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: YellowRoseofTx
8) An American welfare recipient, a homeless person, and/or a convict cannot fulfill your job position, first

LOVE YOUR LIST, but had to add an 8) ;-)

40 posted on 11/03/2007 11:07:31 AM PDT by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: BnBlFlag

Yeah, about 120 days max.

You can’t bring your family.

You can pick up your pay in Mexico City.


41 posted on 11/03/2007 11:14:44 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: EternalVigilance

One day, we’ll all awaken to the fact that Karl Rove was a one-man, walking, talking Potemkin Village. Frankly, I completely lost patience with him when he accepted the accolades for Bush’s 04 victory knowing all the while that it was the Swift Boat vets who put Bush back in; Rove failed at the task. On almost every issue except Iraq, his advice was anti-conservative up and down the line.

Even his retirement reeked of hypocrisy: he didn’t do it “for the family;” he did it because getting out while Bush is still in office enables him to charge more for his consulting fees.

He is a bad apple — to the core. (And no, I am not a liberal or a DU agent.)


42 posted on 11/03/2007 11:15:53 AM PDT by lapster
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To: Clintonfatigued
Karl Rove’s genius has really failed him on the immigration issue.

Rove's 'genius' resides solely in packaging BS in an appealing manner.

43 posted on 11/03/2007 11:17:19 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Nonstatist

“This is what happens when you have a purely poliitical hack calling the shots.”

You mean the evil Genius. The person who for 4 years was called “Rove you maginificent bastard” by almost everyone on this site? The man who engineered the 2002 and 2004 election?

That political hack?


44 posted on 11/03/2007 11:27:18 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: BGHater

That stupid ass doesn’t realize we have one? It’s an attachment to a passport called a work authorization. You get sponsored and it takes only 3 months. It’s faster than a green card by 6 months. Bush has a Harvard MBA and hired people like this?


45 posted on 11/03/2007 11:27:27 AM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: BGHater

Its called welfare to workfare bonehead!


46 posted on 11/03/2007 11:28:37 AM PDT by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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To: BGHater

Rove like Jimmy Carter should just stay quiet, they have both done enough damage to our country.


47 posted on 11/03/2007 11:29:02 AM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: lapster

I agree with you. Have all along.


48 posted on 11/03/2007 11:31:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP is now being chaired by the political directors at NBCBSABCNNFOX..)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The guy who has opposed conservatives, starved them of resources, and empowered party liberals for the last eight years.


49 posted on 11/03/2007 11:32:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP is now being chaired by the political directors at NBCBSABCNNFOX..)
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To: EternalVigilance

Whew, thank you! When I saw there was a response, I put on my asbestos suit and awaited the worst from the Rovebots. What a relief.


50 posted on 11/03/2007 11:33:56 AM PDT by lapster
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