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For those of you who want a larger sample than the 387 self identified Republicans and Republican leaners in the Newsweek MSM push poll, although it is a poll of adults, it is a poll of 2,114 adults. It demonstrates that the race is a two man contest between Giuliani and Thompson, has been for some time and will likely remain so. For those of you who cannot stomach the idea of Rudy as the GOP nominee, but do not yet support Thompson, it may be time to reevaluate your options if you do want to keep Hillary out of the White House.
1 posted on 11/03/2007 10:34:50 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; Petronski; Reagan Man; Clara Lou

ping!


2 posted on 11/03/2007 10:43:12 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads
On the bright side, the race between the Republican candidates is a reflection of a reasonable field of viable (one way or another) candidates. Unlike the democrap coronation of their dark queen, followed by some human sacrifices...are you paying attention Hussein Obama?

We have an ideological struggle going on as reflected by the variety of positions represented by our candidates. OTOH, the democrat field is entirely socialist, if not downright Stalinist. The races are close enough they can go either way for the Republican candidates.

What I find particularly devastating for the Hillary camp is that roughly 50% of the nation will never even consider voting for the little commie.

We're going to see some pretty foul maneuvers coming from their camp come the end of summer.

3 posted on 11/03/2007 10:43:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Brices Crossroads

National polls do not seem useful except to sway potential primary voters. The nomination is a primary battle. Influencing primary voters is different than influencing the public and general elections.

The Republican party is split so I am not optimistic about electing any candidate. I think that Rudy will be nominee but he will split the party. FDT can unify the party and win in November but I doubt that he will be nominated. He does not seem to have the local organization to win key primaries. Perhaps he also lacks money.


4 posted on 11/03/2007 10:47:39 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Brices Crossroads
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

5 posted on 11/03/2007 10:48:19 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Brices Crossroads

“but do not yet support Thompson”

The honeymoon is over with Thompson. I’m glad to say I was never enamored.


6 posted on 11/03/2007 10:48:26 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

But, but...Mitt has spent millions of dollars of his own money to buy, er, garner support from the sheeple, uh, people of the United States! How is this possible?!! How can Fred be running neck and neck with Rudy: “one of the most famous Americans in the world”?

Fred doesn’t have to spend tons of cash, he just needs to get his message through to the folks, like his plans to stem illegal immigration: http://www.fred08.com/virtual/Immigration.aspx


7 posted on 11/03/2007 10:50:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Brices Crossroads

The nomination of Rudy will blow the Republican Party apart. Fred is the only candidate who can unite all of the various factions. Fred can defeat the Bi!ch and I believe he will have coattails, especially in those Red States that lost Pubbie Congressmen in normally Republican Districts in 2006.


15 posted on 11/03/2007 10:59:36 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Brices Crossroads
Rudy's been running, for how long now? Almost a year? or more? He never seems to be able to garner more than 30%-ish support among us. I don't believe he ever will. Fred got into the race because lots of Republicans were not satisfied with the candidates who were running. He has not been in the race very long, hasn't spent near the money that the others have & he is already in 2nd place.

Fred showed great patience in entering the race at his own time, on his own terms. Once the other lower tier candidates start dropping out and McCain as well, those numbers are going to change radically. Thompson is looking like the one that can knock Rudy out of the primaries. I'm still holding out hope that Duncan Hunter can pull off a miracle - but I have no objection whatsoever - to voting for Fred if Hunter isn't able to pull up in the polls.

I won't waste my vote come primary time on someone that can't win - soon, some of us will have to make a tough decision. Will we hold out for the best candidate even if we know he won't get enough votes to beat Rudy? Or will we once again have to compromise and vote for the candidate that can beat the liberals - Hillary! & Rudy! A race between those two will be our worst nightmare & we need to do everything to keep that from happening.

Fred can unite the party.

32 posted on 11/03/2007 11:39:13 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Secretary of Defense.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I would tend to think that as the 2nd tier conservative candidates drop out the majority of their support will go to Thompson while most of McCain’s support would go to Guliani. I would gather that we’re looking at a Guliani-Thompson battle. Then when Huckabee drops out the majority of his support would go to Thompson. But hey whatdoiknow. LOL!


37 posted on 11/03/2007 11:44:09 AM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Revenge begins on December 22nd!!!!!)
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To: Brices Crossroads
The issue singly most important to me is Illegal Immigration. Rather than split the vote and vote Hunter, I will vote for Thompson because I believe he is on the right side. I will never vote Rudy.
40 posted on 11/03/2007 11:49:32 AM PDT by barnicus
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To: Brices Crossroads
No margin of error was provided.

Odd.

56 posted on 11/03/2007 12:34:56 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger; papasmurf; ejonesie22; jellybean

Ping!


59 posted on 11/03/2007 12:49:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Brices Crossroads

11/03/07

Fred 17%
Rudy 21%

Total 39%

Mitt 12%
Juan 15%
Mike 12%

Total 39%

Remainder? 22%

Other Candidates come to about 5%
Undecided is at about 17%, a tie for second place.

In other words, we, as I have said before, are waiting for the low level candidates to drop. Since they are very conservative candidates it is unlikely they will go for Mitt or Juan. Maybe about 1% for Mike.

That puts Fred dead even with Rudith. As the undecided fall into place I expect half of them to link with Fred. They are finding out more each day about Rudith. The other half will spread out to the other candidates.

Result…

Fred at 32%
Rudy at 26%
Mitt 12%
Juan 15%
Mike 12%

Total at 97% with 3% for “variables”


63 posted on 11/03/2007 1:00:26 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Since last month, Fred in this poll went from 32% to 26%,
and Romney went from 9% to 17%. Rudy is basically flat at around 30%.

Oct. 2007
Sept. 2007
Aug. 2007

Rudy Giuliani 31%
28%
30%

Fred Thompson
26%
32%
27%

Mitt Romney
17%
9%
11%


83 posted on 11/03/2007 3:47:39 PM PDT by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: Brices Crossroads
...it may be time to reevaluate your options if you do want to keep Hillary out of the White House.

There is one possibility that few people are looking at these days, with all the hype about Hillary and Osama, er Obama. That is the very real and extremely likely possibility that John Edwards is going to win the nomination. Remember, all Presidents so far have been white men, and I wouldn't bet on that changing any time son. We are wasting a lot of time trying to pre-defeat Hillary, when it will be done by the Democrats anyway. So we nominate Rudy, because he has the best chance to defeat someone who won't be running anyway.

123 posted on 11/03/2007 7:43:20 PM PDT by webheart
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To: Brices Crossroads

“387 self identified Republicans”

My guess is some of these may be covert Dems.


144 posted on 11/04/2007 4:35:24 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I believe that Rudy will lose the support of most conservatives when they learn about his “sanctuary city” of New York. It certainly turns me off.


149 posted on 11/04/2007 12:08:07 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Redefeat Communism by defeating Hitlary in 2008)
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To: Brices Crossroads

As much as a like the result of Thompson staying up near the top, the methodology on this poll is too poor to warrant paying much attention to — adults, rather than registered or likely voters, and online interviews, which introduces additional levels of self-selection biasing.


153 posted on 11/05/2007 8:48:23 AM PST by kevkrom (*** THIS SPACE FOR RENT ***)
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