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To: Sub-Driver

Fred’s response regarding abortion was, IMHO, weak. Although his plan would be better than what we have, it would still result in many life-terminations. I could go as far as abortion only in the case of rape or incest, but leave it to the states? Weak! Even in the cases I mentioned, it is a choice between two pretty negative alternatives.


79 posted on 11/04/2007 9:36:14 AM PST by Danrec
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To: Danrec

Fred voted for all abortion restrictions while in the Senate.

I suppose you think an amendment which CAN NOT pass will save lives?

Babies WILL be saved by overturning Roe V Wade.


83 posted on 11/04/2007 9:38:06 AM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Danrec
>>>>>Fred’s response regarding abortion was, IMHO, weak.

Nothing weak about federalism, or the 10th amendment. Fred wants to overturn Roe and end abortion on demand as the national policy of the US government. For 200 years the abortion issue was handled at the state level. Fred wants the abortion issue returned to being a state responsibility. Fred also believes life begins at conception. So I doubt Fred would oppose a right to life amendment protecting the unborn. Besides, no POTUS has any power in the matter of Constitutional amendments. According to Article 5 of the Constitution, the amendment process belongs to the Congress and the state legislatures.

FWIW, here is the 10th Amendment and Article 5:

Amendment 10

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

87 posted on 11/04/2007 9:48:43 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Danrec

Here’s the thing: Fred’s not going to tell you what he thinks you want to hear.

He’s going to tell you who he is and what he thinks, Next step is up to you, but you can bet your last couple bucks he’s not going to triangulate his positions to make you feel better.

I kind of like that about him. It’s the kind of honesty and grit that might just take him all the way to the White House.


96 posted on 11/04/2007 10:32:37 AM PST by John Valentine
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