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Timber to be burned Wednesday in Vail
Vail Daily ^ | November 7, 2007

Posted on 11/07/2007 10:06:28 AM PST by george76

About 20 piles of downed pine and aspen trees will be burned Wednesday and Thursday ...

The trees were cut down this fall by crews building a buffer between the forest and neighborhoods to prevent the spread of wildfires.

Once more snow falls, some of the 250 piles of timber remaining on the upper bench of Donovan Park will be burned.

(Excerpt) Read more at vaildaily.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; forestservice; globalwarming; loggers; logging; pinebeetles; timbersales; usfs; vail; wildfires; wildlandfires
Good to see more communities around the west starting to allow land managers like foresters make some of these scientific decisions on how to best manage a forest.

Second, creating a defensible space near one's home influences the fire fighters future decisions on attacking a future wild land fire.

It may save your home.

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1 posted on 11/07/2007 10:06:28 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

Is it unusable as board lumber? Burning it seems a waste.


2 posted on 11/07/2007 10:10:52 AM PST by Argus
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To: george76

—there’s a whole bunch of it across the pass in Dillon Valley that needs to be burned— (although it has led to tourist humor about “where do I get one of those pretty reddish pine trees” )


3 posted on 11/07/2007 10:15:27 AM PST by rellimpank (--we need a special font for <b>SARCASM</b>)
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To: Argus

—it’s largely the small trashy stuff that grows up when nature’s way-fires-don’t get a chance to clear the weeds, so to speak-—


4 posted on 11/07/2007 10:17:53 AM PST by rellimpank (--we need a special font for <b>SARCASM</b>)
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To: george76

Why not give it to homeowners to burn in their fireplaces?


5 posted on 11/07/2007 10:18:19 AM PST by CommonJudge (Fed up with Harry)
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To: rellimpank

Yup, lotsa dead “pine beetle trees” around these days.


6 posted on 11/07/2007 10:18:43 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: CommonJudge

I suspect that it’s pine, not hardwood. Not good to burn too much pine in the fireplace. Causes chimneys to get all gunked up......can start chimney fires.

Just a guess.


7 posted on 11/07/2007 10:20:05 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Argus; forester

All of the near-by lumber yards have been closed in recent years due to the eco-nuts getting the forest service to deny other logging operations. Hauling in to Montrose, etc. would be very expensive.

If there was an economic value as local firewood, that may have already been offered.

The removed dead trees and brush may not be the best for board lumber ?


8 posted on 11/07/2007 10:20:32 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: CommonJudge
--generally, you can't burn wood in that part of the world--to much "pollution" ,--

--IIRC, Vail cops have an infra-red detector to check if people are burning wood at night , in violation of the regs--

9 posted on 11/07/2007 10:22:16 AM PST by rellimpank (--we need a special font for <b>SARCASM</b>)
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To: rellimpank

We encourage tourists to take those “ pretty reddish pine trees “ home .

8-)


10 posted on 11/07/2007 10:23:34 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
-as I came down, out of the tunnel last summer, I noticed they do contrast nicely with that boring green you see everywhere in the high country.

Surprisingly , none of my acquaintances in Leadville seem to want the new "color" on their side of Fremont Pass---

11 posted on 11/07/2007 10:30:04 AM PST by rellimpank (--we need a special font for <b>SARCASM</b>)
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To: Argus
Is it unusable as board lumber? Burning it seems a waste.

Or grind it up. Guinea Pigs like Aspen shavings (pine shavings hurt their feet).

12 posted on 11/07/2007 10:33:26 AM PST by PAR35
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To: rellimpank

Apparently Grand County is also making some small progress.

The big problem is still the feds.


13 posted on 11/07/2007 10:43:30 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
--they're making some progress in the Black Hills with clearing, controlled burns, etc.,--and last year the governor came up with an astounding plan--involving co-operation , when necessary, between Federal and local fire-fighting efforts---
14 posted on 11/07/2007 10:53:33 AM PST by rellimpank (--we need a special font for <b>SARCASM</b>--NRA benefactor)
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To: EggsAckley
I burned pine and spruce for decades with no problems — they are the dominate species of tree in most of Canada.

You’re right about the potential for chimney fires — if you don’t do things right. If you get a good fire going with kindling, and then just add a couple of logs at a time — waiting until the previous ones are burning nicely — you will burn off most of the creosote-making stuff. You need to give your fire enough air to avoid creating too much smoke — many people make the mistake of dampening down their stove. A brief, fast fire is better than a slow-smoldering one. Finally, regardless of what you’re burning, you should clean your chimney every year. I did that, even though there was usually very little creosote because of the way I burned the wood.

15 posted on 11/07/2007 11:35:24 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Argus

Seems to me they could haul it to the nearest paper mill as pulpwood.


16 posted on 11/07/2007 11:36:57 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Argus

no kidding...


17 posted on 11/07/2007 12:41:27 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Dixie Yooper

The closest lumber mill is the one in Montrose, more than 150 miles away and the next nearest is in Price, Utah, approximately 300 miles distant.

“Over the last two decades local mills have been eliminated,”

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20050201/NEWS/102010012


18 posted on 11/07/2007 12:47:04 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: colorado tanker; TenthAmendmentChampion; SierraWasp; Colorado Doug

Some small, under the radar, good news ?


19 posted on 11/07/2007 4:53:16 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Some small, under the radar, good news ?

Sounds like it, but I'm suspicious. My experience with liberals is they suspend the rules they enforce against the rest of us if doing so would make their stuff/money safer. :-))

20 posted on 11/07/2007 4:58:56 PM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

The mountains where Big Bear is are covered with dead trees killed by pine beetles. But you can’t take ‘em out, say the envirowhackos.


21 posted on 11/07/2007 5:05:09 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: george76

Those people should be forced to make cellulosic ethanol with that wood. Where the hell is algore when you need him?


22 posted on 11/07/2007 7:19:11 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Beowulf

~~ AGW™ ping~~


23 posted on 11/08/2007 3:34:43 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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