Posted on 11/09/2007 7:03:26 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
IMO - If republicans fail to nominate a real conservative in 2008, they will succeed in losing the WH and more seats in congress.
I believe that the column is 110% correct. Both Giuliani and Paul GUARANTEE a divided republican party, which will result in a huge DNC victory.
Giuliani will leave out social conservatives and Paul will leave out all those Americans who do not want to fight the war on terror on our own soil.
Bottom line, no matter who is the DNC nominee, for republicans to win in ‘08, we will have to come up with a nominee that will unite and motivate the republican voters, not divide them even further.
Yeah, of late, mostly becuase he’s had the best one-liners in the debates.
Again, everyone you’re naming is VERY anti-war and they don’t like any pro-national security candidate, including Rudy.
But the majority of the MSM is indeed supportive of Rudy, as a second choice to almost any Democrat.
But despite the MSM, conservatives are NOT running to his campaign, and I don’t really know why???
Obama has developed a habit of talking first and thinking never...
But when (if) Hillary implodes, all of this will be water under the bridge and the party will indeed unite behind Gore in an instant, and Gore will galvanize the minority vote by picking second place Obama in a heartbeat.
Keep in mind that Gore endorsed DNC Chairman Dean in ‘04. They are very close... Obama is shocked at how much support he is getting. Even he knows he’s undeserving. He’d love to be VP in line for 2012...
You never got started...
Might want to watch that Ron Paul in your tag...
FROH.
How can a lifelong conservative like Paul divide the GOP? Ron Paul is UNITING the GOP, he's the only candidate who can bring in the libertarians, independents, and swing voter coalition.
This article is a joke.
Probably on his war stance and civil liberties, but even then those are libertarian, not liberal.
To say that Ron Paul would "divide" the conservative vote is laughable. All of the other candidates are pandering to a shrunken GOP base that consist of religious conservative and pro-war types. How are the other candidates going to bring in the other factions?
Love how you dodge the facts and admit to seeing no need for independent research though...
Many will make the same error relative your tagline. But unfortunately for you, this error does not change any of the facts, or your running from them.
If not Paul, then who is your guy?
How many members of the GOP are pro-national security, pro-war on terror, and anti-cut-n-run?
If Paul can’t get their vote, and he can’t, then he has left out the vast majority of the party he hopes will carry him to the WH.
That’s no joke...
If Paul is popular among conservatives, why can’t he get above 5% in any poll? and why is he doing this?
http://www.primarilypaul.com/ron-paul-in-the-primaries/
Apparently, you spend your time with Paul supporters, not conservatives. Even libertarian republicans are denouncing him as a leftwing nut. When you’re left of Hillary and Obama on national security, it isn’t hard to figure out why.
Did you read the quotes from his former aide, founder of the Libertarian Republican Caucus??? You might be the joke, though not very funny.
You’re kidding yourself, by not researching where his money is coming from, to think he can get more than 10% of the republican vote, just as the column says.
You clearly don’t like this reality, but you won’t change it.
FROH
The founder of the Libertarian Republican Caucus is a former aide to Ron Paul... Here’s how he feels about your “conservative” who won’t divide the party vote...
Former Senior Aide to US Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) from 1997-2003, Founder of the Republican Liberty Caucus , CEO of MainstreamLibertarian.com & Google Libertarian Republican Blog and host of top ten blogtalk radio show LIBERTARIAN POLITICS LIVE, Eric Dondero, had this to say about Ron Paul in a recent interview;
“Ron Paul is NOT a “Libertarian Republican.” Yes, there was a time when he was, back in the 1990s. But since 9/11 Paul has become a complete nutcase conspiratorialist quasi-Anti-Semitic leftwing American-hating nutball.”
Dondero went even further; “We Libertarian Republicans wish to have nothing to do with him. Ron Paul is only attracting support from the leftwing side of the libertarian spectrum, virtually none of whom are Republicans. Those of us who are real Libertarian Republicans wish to have NOTHING to do with the idiocy of Ron Paul, nor his extremist philosophy.”
Dondero complained; “Please refrain in the future from using the label “Libertarian Republican” in describing Ron Paul. Call him what he is: Some sort of populist leftwinger.”
“I believe that the column is 110% correct. Both Giuliani and Paul GUARANTEE a divided republican party, which will result in a huge DNC victory.”
You can add McCain and Huckabee to that list, too.
The only two “so-called” front runners that even have a chance at uniting the party are Thompson and Romney.
Problem is Thompson would actually have to get out their and rally the party. And Romney, he’s a flipper even if he’s flopping the right way.
Hunter is the only choice. And the sooner all conservatives, republicans get on-board, the better chance our country has at survival.
HAHAHAHA: youre funny (and insane): I don’t agree with Ron Paul on the war, if you will go back and look at my first post. Secondly Guilani isn’t the only American that can be strong on national defence, there are much better candidates for POTUS ‘08 that are STRONG on Natl. Defence, and agree with me on smaller governement such as Tancredo, Hunter..etc!
I didn’t say you agreed with Ron Paul on the war, I used Ron Paul as the example of being wrong on the most important issue of our day. You seem to think it isn’t the most important issue of our day.
You read something I didn’t right.
But I did point out twice now, that to think the domestic issues will get any attention at all while we are fighting terrorism on our own soil after leaving the ME as unfinished business, was laughable.
That’s the only point to my post to you. Don’t know how your imagination picked up the rest?
BTW - We certainly agree that Giuliani isn’t the only candidate strong on national security or the war on terror. In fact, he isn’t the strongest.
As far as your statistic about people not voting for him, where did you hear that from? The same talking heads who keep promoting Rudy and Hillary?
I think it's funny that some people are in such denial that he has actual support - and NOT from "all lefties" (who, as I said, only agree with him on one issue, the war)
And the reason they're telling people to switch parties, is because as I posted, there are registered independents, constitution party, libertarians, or others who left the GOP who would have to register Republican. I already said that would include some Democrats too, but most on the left would not support someone who represents the opposite of what they believe in.
That’s just it, the anti-American anti-war stance famous among Democrats is now better represented by Ron Paul than any leftist Democrat.
Thanks for making my point.
Let me introduce you to “research.” We live in the information age. Everything you want to know about a candidate is available, for anyone willing to keep researching until they have ALL the facts. Of course, this requires waiting for all the facts to come in to draw a conclusion, rather than drawing a conclusion first, then stopping the research the minute you find something to support it...
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