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To: Popocatapetl

I have to ask you Popo, do you believe all of those statements you listed, or are you saying what you think others think about these things?

Because, if you’re simply making statements that others have said in the thread, you’re right. But taken TOGETHER, they mean absolutely nothing.

If you were logical about this you would realize that making folks making these statements are basing their believes on absolutely nothing.


132 posted on 11/10/2007 7:45:11 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Actually, I was giving a sample of how disinformation works.

The basic concept is to take over the debate with a combination of denials, distractions, misinformation, digression, with a healthy dollop of feigned skepticism and dismissive humor thrown in.

The typical person can be overwhelmed in such a way that even what they saw with their own eyes is either discounted or coerced into silence. Either way, the disinformation campaign wins.

During the Clinton years, it was done so often at the national level, that someone compiled a by-the-numbers list of ways that the Clintons subordinates would use to evade responsibility for serious criminal offenses. They were so well trained that they would always use the same progression every time. And it worked. It completely cowed those who had even been grievously wronged by the Clintons.

The public saw it, over and over again, on the news-talk shows, and truthfully, it represents an impressive display of discipline and utter shamelessness on their part of their defenders. It was the flip side of “talking points”, and everyone permitted to speak to had remain on message at all costs. Almost military efficiency.

But back to the Phoenix Lights. The bottom line is pretty much as I originally described. It stands alone as a unique event, with a high probability of what it really was, a US Air Force aircraft, and what it was doing, flying either to or from Groom Lake AFB, Nevada, to a flight training area off the coast of San Diego.

It really doesn’t matter why the government believes that it is vital that it be disregarded by the general public. All useful intelligence information would have been detected by any serious aircraft intelligence analyst, domestic or foreign, so the existence of the aircraft has been compromised, as well as its very general flight parameters, such as very quiet engines.

As such, it is like Groom AFB itself. Obvious, yet still denied.

On a personal note, on the assumption that it is a USAF aircraft, three cheers to the development team for producing such an amazing achievement, with the hope that they continue to outdo themselves in the future. My greatest hope is that if they do hit on a real winner, that they can get it into production, even if it will only be placed into storage for some future need.

Its specifics are unimportant compared to it being able to do its job, whatever that may be.


134 posted on 11/10/2007 10:49:38 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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