Posted on 11/09/2007 4:55:08 PM PST by fanfan
Thanks.
Not to mention what that says about the Phantom pilot who shot down a friendly aircraft while parked on the flight deck.”
If I recall the safety film correctly, a plane was doing high power turn ups behind the bird carrying the sidewinders. the direct jet blast into the missile’s motor was said to have fired the sidewinder into the other (McCain’s-wow) plane.
A bit of history : Spain/Portugal/Dutch owned the oceans until the English won the Battle of the Spanish Armada in 1588. Thus the British empire grew and grew through her control of the oceans(the world speaks ENGLISH because of it). It wasn’t challenged until napoleon/france in 1800, then finally the empire upon which the sun never set, began to decline in WWI.
Starting in WWI and gaining great momentum in WWII, the US Navy has taken over the role as ruler of the 7 seas. All the other naval powers are second raters by comparison. The russians tried it, and the USSR collapsed, esp its navy. Now comes the chinese and their naval ambitions, this LOST treaty for UN control of the seas is but one more chinese ploy to gain supremacy on the oceans.
Object lesson : no country can become an empire until it controls the oceans. Napoleon tried it on land and got his butt kicked by the british navy, finally dying in exile on a BRITISH island. Hitler tried it too, and his U boat fleet was finally wasted too. Kruchev tried it w/cuba, until confronted by Kennedy in the naval blockade, and the closest we’ve ever come to nuclear war.
This LOST treaty is nothing more than all the other pisants trying to take control of the seas away from the US navy. They can’t do it by force so they try the pisant lawyers route. They’ll only do it if our navy has become wimps. What a sad conclusion, esp to all those brave american sailors who died making the US Navy the COP of the marine world, the bringer of peace to so many nations...
Though I agree with your assessment of surface ASW capability, I think the ASW role for the CVBGs is supposed to fall on their LA class sub escorts. Modern diesel-electric boats will be our bane for the foreseeable future.
Unfortunately we're going to have to suffer a severely damaged or sunk bird farm to get REALLY serious about this.
“They’ll only do it if our navy has become wimps. “
Our top navy pentagon officials have been cheerleading for LOST. As well as Bush, Senator Lugar and many others. They certainly are wimps, in my opinion.
Thanks for the history lesson.
Yes, there’s another biblical/historical lesson here as well, something about esau and a bowl of soup...
Unless you wanted to and seeing that it was a naval exercise they may have wanted him to surface. Think, that sub would also not want to tell us he had penetrated the group.
Once he surfaces we can back trace our tapes of the exercises and see what sound or electrical traces occurred just before he surfaced and as he left.
We now get more out of it than he got by showing off (for which he got NOTHING.) So it is just as likely one of our subs did something to make him breach the surface and show himself.
Once he did that we now have pics as well as the traces for our records. Now he is marked and cataloged. He would have been very stupid to allow that unless he felt forced.
Jeff Head was right. The vain and spoiled ones are wrong.
...need to split our fleets into many smaller ships, BTW, and build up ground and air forces.
Nanoweapons are going to make the whole concepts of radar and “early warning” into a total farce.
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