[samadams2000]

I’m mexicanned out.

[DumpsterDiver]

But some Mexican immigrants say ... that it is Mexican Americans who discriminate against people of their own heritage, treating them disrespectfully and without compassion, giving them poorer service than others.

"Not only have I witnessed these things, I've lived them," said Juan Manuel, a painter from Veracruz, who asked that his surname not be used because he is living in the United States illegally.

Juan Manuel is not a Mexican immigant, he is an illegal alien from Mexico.

"It's kind of surprising how poorly some Mexican Americans can treat Mexican immigrants, given that they have so much in common," said the Rev. John Korcsmar, pastor of Dolores Catholic Church in East Austin...

They obviously do not have "so much in common."

[oneolcop]

Seal the border. The pressure will build up to the point where politicians on both sides will have to do something.

[norton]

I think the real problem is that most Americans "of mexican extraction"....citizens and legal residents...either turned a blind eye toward, or tacitly abetted, illegal immigration for decades. Previously those folks would quite probably treat the illegal like a cousin instead of a criminal.

The border states have always exploited this and for most of the recent past the numbers were within comfortable limits, the skills being exploited were not a threat, because "our mexicans" were progressing right along with the rest of "us".

Numbers and political activism have pushed the issue into more of a family confrontation than in the past. People are definately going to feel heat because of the Home-Depot commandos and street protests and the bottom line is that those who came here first and got here legally (including those still hiding that 'cousin' in the garage) will be the second ethnic group to suffer most after Black Americans.

[DoughtyOne]

There are some interesting dynamics that play out here, and they are dynamics about which our leaders have expressed a complete lack of understanding.

People of Mexican heritage DO NOT stand as a unified block behind illegal alien immigrants, in support of them.

Illegal alien immigrants are not viewed by legal residents from Mexico with any less disgust than us.  It is a little understood dynamic, the one of shared culture and background, that causes the legal Mexican on U.S. soil to dispise what the illegals are doing to the reputations and customs they value from Mexico.  The real laugh here is that their eleveated disgust compared to ours at the same things we non-Mexican ancestry U.S. Citizens are disgusted with, will never be challenged with words like xenophobic or racist.  And the real topper to this, is that they are absolutely right to feel as they do.

What is your ancestry?  I don't care what it is, if others from your family's ancestral home were to illegaly sneak into the United States in a similary fashion as the Mexican illegals have, would you be pleased?  If it escalated to the point that people who shared your ancestry felt embarassed by the actions of the illegal alien movement, would you tend to support the illegal alien immigrants?  You would have come to this nation, or have been born here and respect the nation.  You would have respected it enough to entery legally, or to have been born here and respect it as your home.  You would be even more disgusted at the illegals who were tarnishing your hard fought achieved respect as a race of people.  And you would be justified in your disgust.

The illegal alien invaders find no quarter with people who respect our nation and the rule of law.  Those that speak out to defend them and what they have done are nothing more than insullent children always trying to skirt the meanings of laws and the need for them, that don't conform to their true objectives.  If someone speaks out in favor of the illegal alien invader, you have every right to wonder what prompts that support.  Is it truly compassion?  Legal Mexican immigrants don't share that compassion.  Is it truly because they are unable to support themselves back home in Mexico.  Legal Mexican immigrants don't buy into that excuse?  Is it the libertarian belief that borders shouldn't be used to keep anyone wanting to cross them out?  Legal Mexican immigrants don't share that view.

People develop their beliefs based on other things they support.  It's a world view that their beliefs conform to.  They don't just pick one issue out of a hat and decide this will be the one I support that conflicts with every other belief I have.  If someone is willing to front for criminality and the savaging of our nation that is taking place at the hands of thirty-million foreign illegal alien invaders, then they have less love for this nation than the legal Mexicans that rest on our soil.  That is something we should always keep in mind.  And if a person is willing to back the illegal alien invaders, you better wonder what else they are or are willing to support.

Legal Mexican ancestral residents of our nation, whether citizen or not, deserve our respect and appreciation for sharing our values.  Of course, those few who support La Raza, MAADEF and La MechLa don't, but that isn't limited to those with Mexican ancestry.  The U.S. Citizens who do support the illegal alien invader, deserve nothing other than our contempt, for that is what they have earned.  From me they will always get what they have earned.  And the U.S. Citizen or resident with Mexican ancestry that respects and observes the laws of this nation, will alway get from me what they have earned, my respect.

[kcvl]

There is a difference in ILLEGAL immigrants & legal immigrants and they KNOW IT!

Consider the source:

The second speaker, Juan Castillo, shared his frustration over the impasse in fixing a 20-year immigration problem. He focused on the Hutto Detention Center for detained illegal immigrants. Castillo discussed his challenges obtaining information and reporting over its controversial accommodations.

“The human consequences of this impasse and how states and cities are trying to deal with the impasse is unconstitutional,” said Castillo. “The core of the problem is that mothers, fathers, and babies are in jail, although they call it a detention center, it is a jail.”

Castillo emphasized that these detainees are not criminals, but are housed at Hutto Detention Center which used to be minimum security prison. Many of the immigrants at the Hutto Detention Center are waiting on asylum. Presently, there is a congressional subcommittee investigating the conditions in the detention centers.

“Our objective is to shed some light on things that are happening in the shadows, such as Hutto Detention Center,” said Castillo. “It’s a human story, no matter how you think.”

[AuntB]

"It's kind of surprising how poorly some Mexican Americans can treat Mexican immigrants, given that they have so much in common," said the Rev. John Korcsmar, pastor of Dolores Catholic Church in East Austin, which like many Central Texas congregations has seen an influx of Spanish-speaking immigrants.

What? What do Mexican Americans have in common with illegal aliens? They want this to be all about race, country of origin. Racism at it's best!

[Travis McGee]

Bump for later.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Immigration would not mean a clash of cultures if it were kept legal and in moderation as it used to be until Ted Kennedy stuck his nose in it. We also have to do away with the family chain laws that encourages mass immigration from only a few countries. And there has to be an end to the anchor baby scam, the 14th Amendment was never meant to apply to illegal aliens and the good news is that someone is finally stepping up to the plate to have the abuse challenged in court:

Legislator plans new reforms

Terrill, R-Moore, said he wants to crack down on so-called anchor babies, children whose mothers come to the United States to give birth. The U.S. Constitution states children born in this country are U.S. citizens.

His idea to deal with babies born to illegal immigrants would be for Oklahoma to refuse to issue a birth certificate, he said. Instead, the state would send an acknowledgement of birth to the U.S. embassy or consulate of the parents' nation of origin requesting a birth certificate.

"That would set up the legal challenge because you would have unlawfully present, foreign national parents who would be suing the state of Oklahoma to try to get a birth certificate for a child who they would be claiming is a U.S. citizen,” he said.

[Patriot Babe]

Well I am surprisingly to see that another side to the immigration story is coming out.

Folks, I am an American of Mexican & Spanish ancestry. I do speak Spanish because of my father. With my mother always English.

I can tell you that there are some of Mexican ancestry feel resentful that Illegals are coming in here, and bringing down wages and getting benefits that we as citizens can’t.

I had my own experience when I had to go to see a doctor. I didn’t have insurance and was unemployed, so I had to go to the county. I had to give $240 bucks UPFRONT or no service. As I did, and sat there in the waiting room. This Mexican lady comes walking in with her 2 kids. She told the receptionist she didn’t have insurance. The receptionist asked her if her kids were insured and she said no. Then the receptionist then asked her if her kids were born here in the US, and she said no except for one who was not with her. The receptionist told her she can try to help her by signing up her child that was born here under some Healthy Children program, and then the rest of them can get coverage thru the child.

That really opened my eyes and I was pissed. Here I am a true blue American, and cannot even get a financial assistance. Yet this woman and her dam Anchor Baby got help.

So yes, there are many Americans with Mexicans who are against Illegal Immigration. This will affect ALL AMERICANS no matter whether your of Mexican, Spanish, Irish, Polish, German, Italian, etc. Ancestry.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Tammy8]

Some people will never understand- illegal is illegal. Immigration is fine with me- as long as one follows all the laws. I don’t think it is a culture clash- it is more like many are fed up with being walked on by lawbreakers!

[Iron Munro]

CLASH OF CULTURES:

People who have no respect for our laws and break them at will clash with people who respect and obey our laws.

Its that simple.

[Altura Ct.]

"but the Mexican says, 'We're not Mexicans"

[Brucifer]

Worst things I ever heard said about Hispanics were said by Mexicans. Worst things I ever heard about Blacks were said by Hispanics.

None of this is simple or obvious.