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Megachurch took in $69 million in 2006
Kansas City Star ^ | Nov. 11, 2007 | A.P.

Posted on 11/11/2007 5:20:17 PM PST by Graybeard58

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To: danamco

All this information about Cashflow Dollar and the other TV preacher frauds has been in the public domain for years, yet the suckers, I mean, “partners,” continue to send in checks so that these wolves can continue their high living while preaching a perverted version of the Gospel and sometimes outright heresy. There is no help for the willfully stupid and gullible, unfortunately.


141 posted on 11/12/2007 10:12:46 AM PST by Cecily
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To: eleni121
The money goes for many worthy Christian activities world wide.

Maybe???

If you prefer to see through the "blind" man's eyes, you should check out this link:

http://www.trinityfi.org/index.html

It may surprise you!!!

142 posted on 11/12/2007 10:21:20 AM PST by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: Seruzawa
No one is forcing the people to send money to a ministry. The city steals millions at gunpoint.

Exactly!

143 posted on 11/12/2007 10:24:24 AM PST by bigjoesaddle ("By Grabthar's hammer......what a savings")
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To: danamco

Lots of MSM articles there...always attacking Christians anyway.

again, they do lots of wonderful things..and you don’t have to contribute.

But you may be interested in this wonderful organization:

http://www.persecution.com/


144 posted on 11/12/2007 10:36:21 AM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Graybeard58

So????

The whole operation took in $69M revenue. That’s not much for what is essentially a business.

Where the money went is a much more interesting question ... which probably has a very dull answer. (That the CEO got a Rolls is not interesting; nothing wrong with a little (and yes, it’s little) bonus for doing a good job financially.)


145 posted on 11/12/2007 10:43:22 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: eleni121
Lots of MSM articles there...always attacking Christians anyway.

This is NOT from the MSM this is directly from the "Witteburg Door":

About The Wittenburg Door

The Door is not published in a vacuum. And we're not simply sophomoric jerks who have nothing better to do than lob grenades at religion, like you're probably thinking. We have a history, a context and a community that we sometimes don't explain as carefully as we should.

We satirize something we love—the Church, and more generally people of faith—with the hope that our prodding might generate some course corrections while inducing a laugh or two... or three.

(And yes, we're aware that we need a wake-up call ourselves occasionally. We deflate ourselves regularly, but you, too, can fire when ready).

Twenty-five years later, Yaconelli passed on the magazine to Trinity Foundation in Dallas and its president, Ole Anthony. Here's Yaconelli's description of Anthony and his group: "Ole is the personification of what it means to be unique in the body of Christ. He is a strange, odd, eccentric, godly, bright, passionate, gentle man who lives his faith in the inner city of Dallas. There, through the Trinity Foundation, he guides a community of homeless who have taken a vow of poverty and who try to live out their faith in radical ways. Ole has been electrocuted, shot, held hostage with a gun in his mouth in Beirut, has worked in military intelligence and become the pit-bull of watchdogs when it comes to TV evangelists and their ilk. Ole and the Trinity Foundation worked together on PrimeTime Live's expose of Robert Tilton and others."

A complete presentation of Trinity Foundation's mission, history, beliefs and current activities can be found at its website at www.trinityfi.org. You can also listen to the morning bible studies at Trinity.

Why Creflo Dollar Needs His Dollars By John Bloom 11/08/2007

Every time we write about Creflo Dollar we have to point out that this is not one of those fake news articles we've sometimes managed to foist onto the public, and that the name Creflo Dollar was not used by Charles Dickens to describe a wheezing barrister in a pub, nor was it invented by a heavy-handed satirist attempting to lampoon a greedy Ukrainian. No, Creflo Dollar is a real person, one of the six televangelists who got letters from the Senate Finance Committee on Monday, asking them to send in detailed accounting statements proving that they're not converting church money to their personal use.

More specifically, Creflo Dollar is the pastor of World Changers Church International of College Park, Georgia. Presumably he chose that name himself, completely free of fear that it would be soon be better known as Money Changers Church International by the 30,000 members who weekly enrich its coffers and make it possible for Creflo to maintain the two jets—one Gulfstream 3 and one Lear—that he uses to shuttle back and forth between Madison Square Garden (where he does a Saturday night service for an audience of 6,000) and Atlanta (where he does a Sunday morning service), not to mention occasional visits to his offices in the United Kingdom, South Africa, Australia and Nigeria. Creflo's wife Taffi Dollar—and here we remind you once again that we are not lapsing into fiction at any point during the creation of this article—Taffi Dollar is responsible for the household budget at the $3 million Dollar mansion in Atlanta, and the more modest $2.44 million Dollar condo overlooking Central Park in Manhattan. Asked about the Dollar dollars by CBS News yesterday, Dollar said it was untrue that he had two Rolls-Royces (we'd actually heard it was two Rolls-Royces and one Humvee, but who's keeping track?)—that he only had one Rolls and it was given to him by his congregation as a surprise. He also said he did not give $500,000 of church funds to fellow "prosperity gospel" evangelist Kenneth Copeland on the occasion of Copeland's 40th wedding anniversary—although he did not say how much he did give—so we want to be very careful when we say that the annual budget for Dollar's operation, his overhead dollars, is about $80 million. (Note to Creflo: Get back to us if we're a little off on that number.)

The interesting aspect of this story, however, is that so many of these prosperity-gospel guys do funnel money back to Copeland in so many ways that it almost looks like a pyramid scheme. Actually that's too harsh—what it really resembles is the marketing structure of Mary Kay Cosmetics, set up so that every time a salesperson recruits another salesperson, he or she gets a cut of the commission. And the reason that all roads lead to Copeland—see our summary of Copeland's organization in the investigative cartooning feature "Lifestyles of the Rich and Religious"—is that he's the granddaddy of what goes by many names—like "positive confession"—but is most commonly called "Word Faith." If you look for the theological origins of "Word Faith," you end up in Tulsa, of course, and specifically at RHEMA Bible College in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, which was founded by Kenneth E. "Papa" Hagin (1917-2003), the man who pretty much created the American-style health-and-wealth preaching so familiar from late-night television. Copeland was a student there, as well as at Oral Roberts University, which veers close to RHEMA in its theology but is not always on the same page. (Truth be told, every prosperity preacher is his own theology school, since part of the basis for the teaching is direct special revelation from God, which makes all these guys the heirs of the original gnostics.) But if RHEMA had a creed, it would go something like this:

1. God's covenant with Abraham means that God has to deliver on his part of the deal, so anything you ask for in the name of Jesus, God is required to give you. (Should we quote some Janis Joplin lyrics here?)

2. Man is equal to God in every respect. Or, in the words of Copeland, "You don't have a God in you! You are one!" (Tom Cruise would like this one.)

3. Jesus was not the son of God, he was a man empowered by God to be just like God, and everyone who knows this can do the same thing. (We're not sure we have this one exactly right, but it's basically "Be Jesus, go ahead, He won't mind, you're soulmates.")

4. Jesus went down into hell where he took on Satan's nature, until he was born again, and re-emerged to start the church. (Presumably they preach this one on Halloween.)

5. Anything you speak and believe, with understanding, will come true just as you want it. (Yes, this seems like it's the same as number one, but that one is about what God has to do, and this one is about what you have to do. It's the "positive confession" part, the idea that your thought processes can command God to act.)

6. God promises in Isaiah 53 to heal every physical illness of anyone who has faith. (As our mentor Ole Anthony once said, "Then why aren't there thousands of 200-year-old billionaires in Tulsa?")

7. Any Christian who believes in poverty is outside God's will. (Well, take that, you cloistered loser in the hairshirt.)

There are more, but these are the biggies. I would imagine that at this point you're starting to see why taking away Creflo Dollar's dollars could amount to more than just a little lifestyle adjustment. It pretty much goes to the heart of the whole Kahuna.

146 posted on 11/12/2007 11:30:13 AM PST by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: MinuteGal

Grassley is too stupid to realize he is being used by the democraps to create a huge negative democrats will exploit in ‘08. You Perot nose is still accurate, m’Lady.


147 posted on 11/12/2007 11:50:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Seruzawa
I consider corrupt govt officials to be a far worse danger to the body politic than a few shyster TV ministers. No one is forcing the people to send money to a ministry. The city steals millions at gunpoint.

While I agree that God wants His people rich (2 Cor. 8:9), I disagree with the doctrines usually put forth during offering time- since it usually plays on people's greed, guilt or fear.

Having said that, your assessment of politicians, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO MINISTERS OF JUSTICE, is absolutely totally 100% perfectly accurate. Talk about throwing stones in glass houses...

148 posted on 11/12/2007 11:57:53 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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To: All
Are these Mega-church Pastors considered rich? They preach to the masses about heaven. Has the camel fit through the eye of the needle?
149 posted on 11/12/2007 12:09:04 PM PST by 4yearlurker (Thanks Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 4yearlurker

lol with God, all things are possible.

Lord, increase our faith, right? :)


150 posted on 11/12/2007 12:10:48 PM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I like your tag line. I feel that we are all vehicles making deliveries,and God is the driver.


151 posted on 11/12/2007 12:14:07 PM PST by 4yearlurker (Thanks Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 4yearlurker

I stole it from someone Steve Schultz, one of my favorite ministers.


152 posted on 11/12/2007 12:16:20 PM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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To: pepsionice

Keep in mind that you are talking about Charles the Senile here. He is my senator and, trust me, he is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.


153 posted on 11/13/2007 5:19:20 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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