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Propagandists might be a better term than journalists. I've been watching the old Lou Grant show lately. Maybe what we need is a real life Joe Rossi instead of the clowns who masquerade as journalists.
1 posted on 11/11/2007 7:28:56 PM PST by kathsua
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To: kathsua
Because like the author of "An Inconvenient Truth" they got the grade of D in Earth Science at University.
2 posted on 11/11/2007 7:32:19 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Why can’t this problem be solved by better sealing of greenhouses? Don’t let the gas out, no problem with the gas.


3 posted on 11/11/2007 7:32:59 PM PST by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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Because they don’t have a BS degree. Would would think from their writing they do.
4 posted on 11/11/2007 7:33:09 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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Why are reporters so gullible?

Reporters study journalism and social sciences and are not required to have even one Freshman level science course in their curriculum. Reporters have so much liberal arts pumped up their rectums they only spew reverse peristaltic material. Most reporters can't tell the difference between DNA and a phone book.

6 posted on 11/11/2007 7:36:28 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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In the post-journalism days of academia, they were all tough that only bad news sells. In parallel, the left-drifting liberal socialist left has picked up on the same basic core theme, and made bad news and negativism their mantra and purpose for existence (to cure it all). There really is no true, comprehensive journalism any more. The MSM, in all its grotesque beauty, has morphed into a propoganda machine for the dark side of anti-truth as their chosen destiny.

Yes, I am old enough to remember the days when there were REAL investigative journalists that were so good at their craft, they would have hung the Clintons in their first four years of crime in the White House, and put them behind bars....but that is all behind us now as the MSM fawns over these and the other mob bosses of the Beltway. All of it, an ugly sign of things to come for what was once America.


7 posted on 11/11/2007 7:37:49 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: kathsua
As a 30+ year TV reporter (ret) I would love to speak to this issue, but I’m tired and going to bed.

Readers’ Digest condensed version:

1. Ultra liberal profs
2. “advocacy journalism”
3. No “real world” knowledge. There are many TV reporters in their jobs simply because they want to be “on TV.”
4. The more outrageous a story, the better chance you have of getting extra air time (”face time”)
5. Liberal organizations and people, especially the ones who profit hugely from their “cause” (many environmental and anti-war groups.. You don’t think Al Gore, Jane Fonda or Patty Shehan come for free, do you?) work very hard a developing close contacts with the media, while the Conservative groups adopt a ‘screw the media” attitude.

8 posted on 11/11/2007 7:39:21 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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They are not gullible. They are socialists.


9 posted on 11/11/2007 7:42:29 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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>>>>The inventor may claim that his (perpetual motion) machine may produce nearly as much energy as it consumes

Actually they claim the machine produces the same as or more energy than it consumes.

Producing NEARLY as much would just mean it would slow down slowly.


10 posted on 11/11/2007 7:42:51 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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Why are they gullible? It is not gullibility so much as they found a story that resonates with their inner self-loathing and desire to cheer on socialism.

Why do I put it like that? If they were only concerned with the quality of the environment, they would not approve of giving China or India a pass from the pollution they cause. In fact, they give the entire third world a pass. Tellingly, who do they expect should be the first to obey the most stringent standards? The English-speaking world and developed parts of Europe.

Further, they see no conflict in ever-increasing environmental standards in the US even when that means that net world pollution increases when the US imports raw materials instead of producing them locally.

Based not on their words, or the stories and people they champion, but the net effect, the goal is not to improve the environment but to reduce US power and prosperity while increasing the power of groups they approve of.

There is also a measure of what I call “co-credentiallying”, which is where environmental group A gives reporter B an award for his “hard hitting” reporting. Reporter B later speaks very highly of environmental group C. Group C gives an award to reporter D. And so on, in one big, festival of self-elevation.

When this process is mature in some area, like so-called “Global Warming”, people like AlGore can claim the “weight of consensus” on the topic by just counting groups and their staff that all agree.

11 posted on 11/11/2007 7:43:34 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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There is no scientific perpetual motion machine error. The whole system runs for now, while the sun shines. When the sunshine stops, the weather stops, the earth freezes, and it’s game over.

For now, water vapor, CO2, methane, and some other compounds are greenhouse gases. All else equal, an increase in CO2 will just automatically make for an increase in temperature. A 50% increase in CO2 from the time before the industrial revolution is significant. Heaping ridicule on the idea that it might cause a half-degree increase in world average temperature is not good logic. It’s also a mistake to say that we just cannot measure temperatures that accurately. The science of thermometers is very well understood, and the mathematics of taking the average of a lot of data points is understood too. In fact, taking averages tends to average out whatever errors there may be in the data.


12 posted on 11/11/2007 7:45:54 PM PST by thatwhichwecall
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in the u.s. journalists are trained at “j-schools”

which originated in the 1960’s.

they’re usually separate colleges within a university; so, they’re isolated from other colleges’ requirements—

like physics, math, chemistry, latin, greek, history, etc.

j-school courses are a snap.


13 posted on 11/11/2007 7:47:59 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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b/c usually they are hot.

that bidness chick with the blue eyes is DUMB AS A ROCK... but it is fun to watch here talk about capital gains and rising interest..... double entendres are always fun.

14 posted on 11/11/2007 7:50:08 PM PST by Porterville (Don't bug me about my grammar, you are not that great.)
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~~ AGW™ ping~~


17 posted on 11/11/2007 7:54:17 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: kathsua

Because “D” grades land one in Journalism schools.


18 posted on 11/11/2007 7:59:43 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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Most so-called journalists have problems with spelling, grammar, syntax and punctuation. The basic tools of their own field of supposed expertise. I’m skeptical of their knowledge of science.
19 posted on 11/11/2007 8:02:35 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm voting for Duncan Hunter. Nominee or not.)
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Because Corkie got a journalism degree?
21 posted on 11/11/2007 8:04:43 PM PST by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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Gullible???

That’s their agenda!! - They understand very well that “global warming” is simply a tool to control people, take their money, and shove socialism down our throats.


22 posted on 11/11/2007 8:06:13 PM PST by aquila48
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Actually the science behind it is simple, even simple enough for reporters to grasp...

CO2 molecules don’t radiate energy. Depending on the density of an atmosphere, the sun’s energy hits the surface of a planet. some of that energy is absorbed by the atmosphere. Some of that energy is absorbed by the planet. And some of it is reflected back out into space.

The key is that the denser atmosphere acts as an insulator, absorbing more energy on the way in, and allowing less of the energy to be radiated back into space. CO2 is denser than the normal molecular Nitrogen/Oxygen mixture that primarily makes up our atmosphere. The greater the percentage of CO2, the denser the atmosphere, especially at ground level.

Do I buy the whole “global warming” thing? Well, sort of... I believe that we’re in a natural warming phase of the planet, possibly caused by recent sun storm activity, or possibly by the simple natural cyclic variance of the climate on the earth.

Do I believe that we can control “global warming?” Uh... No.

Mark

But do I buy that


23 posted on 11/11/2007 8:06:55 PM PST by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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Scam artists tend to oversell whatever they are peddling.

Global warming to a T.

24 posted on 11/11/2007 8:15:17 PM PST by GOPJ (Hillary "tricky Dick" Nixon/Clinton. - Stiff a waitress - lie about it. Plant questions - lie more)
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Courses from the Dan Rather Correspondence School of Repurting:

Interviewing techniques 101– Easy ways to make people look bad (Like, turn off the air conditioning so they sweat)

Selective Editing 201 – Taking out the parts where you accidentally made them look good

Accuracy and Verification 333 – Everybody pretty much skips this course

Techniques of Omission 158 - How to deal with information that contradicts your story

Fortune Telling 202 – Very popular course

Journalism Ethics 264 - Course cancelled for lack of interest

Document creation 341 - Back up your stories with great-looking “originals” that will pass close scrutiny

CYA In Case You Are Caught 301 - My 92-year-old aunt will vouch for you (She is an expert witness and needs the money)


32 posted on 11/11/2007 9:13:57 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Not only does Fred Thompson cut taxes, he cuts tax collectors.)
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