Posted on 11/12/2007 5:10:20 PM PST by JennysCool
Would not hit that with a stick
Would not hit that with a brick
Would not hit that with car
Would not hit that very far
Would not hit that any time
With a shoe or with a dime.
I’m glad she decided not to fight it. What I don’t understand is the slam against Catholics on this thread. I’m sure many teachers and principals who did this (and are doing it TODAY) are non-Catholics.
She will certainly spend time in Purgatory for this, if God’s final Judgment is indeed Heaven for her.
Not just a woman, not just a school teacher, A NUN. She was supposed to be a representative for God to these boys/young men. That sort of representation can soil the soul ... of the young men who can conclude the whole of Christianity is a fraud, which leads to serving the lusts of the flesh in life. Pray for these men if you want to pray for the Nun.
Yeah yeah, yeah....
Blah, blah, blah....
Same old, same old. The Catholic church should change to suit me.....
She's unattractive at age 79. Who isn't? I haven't seen any pictures of her at age 30-something, 40 years ago, when the abuse occurred. I know when I was a teenager, there were plenty of 20-something and 30-something teachers I'd have liked to, um, tutor me in the back seat of my car.
The pic of her when the incidents occurred is the one in post #9. In my entire school career, I never saw a single attractive female teacher, not a one. The thought of having one of those middle aged crones having a go at me would’ve f*cked me up for life, seriously.
Real good point, Vinnie! The way things are going now, though, I imagine there is no statute of limitations on possibly getting damages from the Catholic church.
Egad, the women is 79 years old. This happened back in the 70’s. Why did it take them over thirty years to say something? Nothing about this makes any sense. Well, at least she liked boys. Considering the current state of the Roman Catholic Church, it is an improvement.
Was that her at the time of the offense? Yipe. I'm 37, so I don't class 40-ish women as "old," but Sister Norma's looking pretty fierce in that picture. Actually, she looks like a guy in drag.
In my entire school career, I never saw a single attractive female teacher, not a one.
Dude. That's harsh.
Most of my high school teachers were crones, no doubt. But there were a few right out of college, still working on their masters', early 20s -- and a couple in their 30s, still looking mighty fine to a lad of 17. My chorus teacher was about 32, near as I could guess, partial to short skirts, fishnets and just a hint of Giorgio. Giorgio is out of style now, but every now and then I catch a whiff, and it still makes me think of her.
This was a criminal trial. Damages don't enter into it. A civil suit might come later, but that's not what we're talking about here.
On the original question, the statute of limitations depends on when the crime was reported. If there were recovered memories (a dodgy proposition at best), or an ongoing coverup, that could extend the limit. And honestly, I don't know Illinois law, so I don't know what the limit is, or even if there is one.
That's how they have her identified. I'm 4 years younger than you are, and I'd still classify a woman like that, a nun, in her late 30s or 40s as middle-aged.
"Dude. That's harsh. Most of my high school teachers were crones, no doubt. But there were a few right out of college, still working on their masters', early 20s -- and a couple in their 30s, still looking mighty fine to a lad of 17. My chorus teacher was about 32, near as I could guess, partial to short skirts, fishnets and just a hint of Giorgio. Giorgio is out of style now, but every now and then I catch a whiff, and it still makes me think of her."
Sexiness was something I never associated with any of the females employed at my schools. When I started in the late '70s, some of the women still dressed with horn-rim glasses and beehives wrapped in fishnet (then a fashion about 15 years out of date). Even the youngest female teachers (in their late 30s) were quite undesirable. Usually high-strung, arrogant and the antithesis of sexy. I'd probably say the average age of my female teachers were in their 50s. The last two teachers I had were in their 60s and early 70s, both women. As I said, I would've been seriously messed up if any of them had come on to me.
And lastly, my junior high chorus teacher was a bald, middle-aged Black man who could've been the African version of Boss Hogg. I think he smelled like that oil they lubed up horns with. Bleh.
You mean before the Council of Elvira, during the reign of the Roman Emperor Diocletian, when it was first declared in the Patriarchate of the West, or perhaps since the Council of Carthage in 390, when it was finally established. I am surprised to find an expert on Church practice during the persecutions by the Roman Emperors, even here on FR!!
I have to say that this nun, dressing in modern garments during the 1960’s probably was a little weak on more church doctrines than the requirement for chastity.
“I remember very well a couple of women “coming on to me” when I was young. My reaction was immediate fear and “get away fast”. I can’t help but think these people that claim they were molested were actually willing participants.”
Agree ! They sure did know what they were doing- they took advantage of an innocent nun, used her, and probably bragged about it. Now they say they are ‘victims’. At least she has a conscience and pleaded guilty, while these two men won’t admit they used her and took away her innocence. Oy what a world ! Our poor suffering Church...
Are you remotely serious? Wily, crafty boys in their junior high years took advantage of an innocent, naive woman in her 30s? My eyes cannot roll far enough to do that argument justice,
You’re infantilizing everyone involved, and I’m not sure whom you’re underestimating more, the young boys or the adult woman.
I’m going to have to side with you on this one. I agree.
It sounds like it. Too bad for everyone involved. If she was feeling like she couldn’t keep her vows, she should have approached someone on the staff and sought help or a change of status.
What I’m waiting for is someone to pop up at the new place she went to in the 70s. I know it was an all girl school, but something tells me we haven’t heard the end of this yet.
Whoa, don’t hurt your eyes over this....I am aware that in a legal sense the two men were victimized in the sense that the adult nun committed some crimes against two minors.
But i was commenting more on motive and the state of mind of all three parties involved, and in that sense the two men were young and immature adolescents but the nun by virtue of her vow of chastity is also a naive person in the sense that she does not ‘know’ men and she may have been equally immature. In that sense she may have been a victim, but the law does not see it that way, only that a crime was committed as the nun acknowledged. I was also defending her because she is a nun..However, just like a lay teacher who may have committed the same crimes, she is still responsible under the law for her actions. It will be up to the court now to determine what her sentence should be...Would also like to add one thing- i have not seen one case of where a public school teacher was accused of any tomfoolery from decades back. So what does that tell you?..And by the way- thanks for your questioning my line of reasoning, hope this explanation is ok
“BTW, her school was Bryn Mawr College. You know that one! A certain presidential candidate went there.”
If you mean Hillary, I believe that she graduated from Wellesley College and Yale Law School. I’ve never heard about a Bryn Mawr connection.
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