Expired driver's license now need citizenship proof, DPS officials say[Oklahoma]

The Moore American ^ | 08 nov 2007 | M. Scott Carter

[Cicero]

Stupid, inconvenient, annoying, frustrating. Too bad, thank the illegals for making everything harder for ordinary people.

Still, even with all the difficulty, Pricer said he did learn something from the process.

“I’m gonna make sure every knows. I’m gonna make sure all my kids and grandkids check their driver’s license. I want them to be legal.”

Not such a bad lesson, after all

[George from New England]

This is not a renewal problem.

HE LET HIS LICENSE EXPIRE.

[Lord Basil]

Maybe this is a reason why it's a pain now.

[ConservativeMind]

I think this ought to happen in every state.

[Tennessee Nana]

What’s the story here?

Is Kenneth Pricer age 81 and his wife immigrants? Why do they need visas and passports and why is he grumbling?

As a naturalized American citizen, I welcome such “inconvenience”...It means that illegal aliens should not be able to get illegal IDs...

Doesnt Mr Pricer have a cellphone or phone at home that he could have used to CALL the DMV to ask how the procedure to get a new license would work?

No violin concerto....

[mountainbunny]

I’m sorry it took the guy a chunk of time to get his license, but two points need to be made:
1). The fact that it didn’t require all sorts of ID in the past is criminal.
2). He allowed his license to expire, which always adds bonus time in line.

[Travis McGee]

Pays to make a few calls and check out what is required before heading to the car.

[Don Carlos]

Think it's a problem if you let your license expire? Try to find casual laborers to do fall clean up on your lawn/garden. Tree trimming now that they are going dormant? DIY! Low-cost brick work for flower-bed edging, etc? Again, DIY!

Looks to me like the law is working. BTW, got an e-mail the day the law was signed suggesting I check drivers license expiration date. Wish I hadn't deleted it.

[deport]

I think we are all going to have to go through this process when and if they get the Real Identification law into effect. I think we’ll all be bringing proof of citizenship in once to get set up in the system.

[hole_n_one]

From the article.......

Those rules also include drivers licenses.

And the changes apply to any resident — lifelong or not — who lets that license expire.

Your post.......

This is not a renewal problem.

HE LET HIS LICENSE EXPIRE.

My comment: You........

......nailed it!

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>“I guess what bothers me is there was nothing out that warned a person about this. We thought the bill was all about immigration, we didn’t think it applied to us.”<<

How in hell are DMV workers going to know whether “it applies to us” without getting proof? I can imagine what would happen if they didn’t require proof from people who “did not appear to be Hispanic.” The ACLU would use that as evidence of discrimination in their thousands of lawsuits against immigration enforcement.

[3Lean]

“We are turning people away by the dozens,” said Cindy Virgin

That’s why she is still a virgin....

[Grams A]

I’m not sure why any 81 year old should have their driver’s license renewed automatically - I’m a blue hair but feel that people this age should automatically have a driving and vision test every two years or so. Old people’s driving is often pretty scary!

[Tennessee Nana]

I was b orn in New Zealand...

For decades drivers licenses have expired at age 70..the requirement to renew the license was a full physical, and eyes, hearing etc and psych medical examination, and written and road tests...

If the applicant does not pass the physical etc, no license is issed...

A drivers license was regarded as a privilege and a valued item to possess, not a right...

I think it is still that way...

There are no tradegies with 96 yo men killing 10 people etc...

[Tennessee Nana]

REAL immigrants understand about proving ID

I think the reporter went victim hunting and then just dressed the story up a little

Hard to believe someone would do that eh?

LOL

[Don Carlos]

“We are turning people away by the dozens,” said Cindy Virgin, the owner of the Moore Tag Agency. “On Saturday, we had about 15 people we couldn’t help and yesterday it was probably 30 to 40.”

If true, which I do not doubt, the Oklahoma Tax Commission would be getting their arse(s) raked over the coals. The Tag agents work for OTC, but are individual businesses, and one of the most powerful lobby groups in Oklahoma. Anything that slows/stops their income flow immediately causes telephones to ring on OTC's 5th floor!

Doubt that? Try to open a tag agency! If you don't have lots of money plus lots of political connections, try another line of bidness!

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>REAL immigrants understand about proving ID

I think the reporter went victim hunting and then just dressed the story up a little<<

You got that right!

[Rb ver. 2.0]

I lost my license and only had to show an old expired one to get a new one.

[org.whodat]

This is a problem caused by a complete like of common sense and halfas= employees who are using this to gum up the works because the oppose the law. If you haven’t got enough sense to look at and talk to an 81 year old American in Oklahoma and tell he was born and raised there the state employee needs to have a career change.