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Early Look At War On Christmas (Lowe's Blames "Proofing Error"-Others Improve)
American Family Association/Loews/Home Depot /Others Web Sites ^ | 11-13-07 | AFA/Self

Posted on 11/14/2007 10:07:08 AM PST by icwhatudo

After the AFA contacted Loews Home Improvement about some issues with its use of the term Christmas (or lack thereof) Loews responded:

"Lowe's has contacted the AFA and assures us that it is proudly committed to selling Christmas trees this year, as it has done for more than 60 years. The company apologized for the confusion created in its 2007 holiday catalog when it headlined the page of Christmas trees "family trees." The error was not caught before the publication was distributed, and Lowe's says it is disappointed in the breakdown in its proofing process.

Lowe's assures us that they refer to trees as Christmas trees in this season's television and magazine ads and in its advertising flyers. The company says it is redoubling its efforts to proof its catalogs in the future to prevent this issue from recurring.

We appreciate Lowe's for listening to its customers and responding appropriately to our concerns."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: afa; christmas; commercialholiday; culturewar; dramaqueenery; grievancewhoring; grinchstolechristmas; loews; lowes; notnews; religiousintolerance; retail; waronchristmas; wrongforum

Wondering what "holidays" Loews has decorations for? Lets take a look:

Loews website search field is on upper left:

Enter the word Holiday and....175 results found for "Holiday"
Enter the word Christmas and....175 results found for "Christmas"
Enter the word Kwanza and....0 results found for "Kwanza"
Enter the word Hanukkah and....0 results found for "Hanukkah"
Enter the word Ramadan and....0 results found for "Ramadan"
Enter the word Thanksgiving and....0 results found for "Thanksgiving"
Enter the word New Years and....0 results found for "New Years"

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Loews competition HOME DEPOT apparently had no trouble with "proofing errors" and features "Christmas" trees front and center on its home page. Home Depot also makes use of the term "holiday" for decorations but then they actually do offer other holiday decorations unlike Loews. One thing forcing the issue for many companies is that GE is calling their artificial trees "Christmas trees" on large attached tags and prerecorded display advertisements.

BEST BUY this year has ditched the term "holiday" and simply gone with what they consider the big three: Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanza on their signs and gift cards.

TARGET is apparently honoring their promise and actually uses the term Christmas on the front cover of their latest catalog.

WALMART also seems more willing than before to use the term Christmas by calling its entire decoration department "The Christmas Shop".

1 posted on 11/14/2007 10:07:09 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

CYA, nothing more. I’ll bet they’re redoing their tv and radio ads as we speak.


2 posted on 11/14/2007 10:09:01 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: icwhatudo
Yep, I know...its Lowe's Home Improvement. If a Mod could help me out I'd appreciate it.
3 posted on 11/14/2007 10:09:33 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo

Always easier to ask forgiveness then permission.


4 posted on 11/14/2007 10:09:35 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: icwhatudo

Bravo Sierra. If no one had complained, they’d have gotten away with it and precedent would have been set forever.


5 posted on 11/14/2007 10:10:08 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: icwhatudo

Hit the abuse button and explain. Fastest way to get things fixed..


6 posted on 11/14/2007 10:11:05 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: icwhatudo

Festivus is being slighted!


7 posted on 11/14/2007 10:11:34 AM PST by AU72
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To: Slapshot68

Yeah I bet the reps at Lowes are cursing Christians under their breath for making a big deal about it.


8 posted on 11/14/2007 10:11:45 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Winchester MA has canceled a field trip to see a production of Miracle on 34th Street because Santa Claus is in it.


9 posted on 11/14/2007 10:13:00 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AU72

For the rest of us!


10 posted on 11/14/2007 10:19:20 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: icwhatudo

The never-ending search for something to be offended about continues....


11 posted on 11/14/2007 10:20:16 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: AU72

They don’t distinguish between holiday poles and normal silver poles.


12 posted on 11/14/2007 10:22:05 AM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: icwhatudo

Proofing error? A proofing error is if one page is advertising Chirstmas Trres. Family Tree is not an error in proofreading.


13 posted on 11/14/2007 10:22:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: massgopguy

Unbelievable!


14 posted on 11/14/2007 10:24:39 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: AU72

How dare they slight FESTIVUS!!!!


15 posted on 11/14/2007 10:24:58 AM PST by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: icwhatudo

Looking at the pages at the AFA link, I’d guess they were trying to market to Jewish customers as well - that blue & silver one - but without actually saying so, since there’s no such thing as a Hanukah tree (no, nor a bush either). Hence, “family trees.” I do wonder what the upside-down one is - wiccan, maybe?


16 posted on 11/14/2007 10:26:11 AM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: KarlInOhio

We apologise for the fault in the catalog. Those responsible have been sacked.

....

We apologise again for the fault in the catalog. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

...

The directors of the firm hired to continue the catalog after the other people had been sacked, wish it to be known that they have just been sacked.

...

The catalog has been completed in an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute...


17 posted on 11/14/2007 10:26:25 AM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: All

18 posted on 11/14/2007 10:26:42 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: icwhatudo

Target’s TV ads are only tangentially Christmassy.


19 posted on 11/14/2007 10:28:31 AM PST by steve8714 (When full-out jihad hits Europe they'll all want dollars.)
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To: icwhatudo
Enter the word Kwanza and....0 results found for "Kwanza"

Yeah, and spelling it properly likely wouldn't help, either.

20 posted on 11/14/2007 10:35:03 AM PST by newgeezer (In a perfect world, Amendment XIX would still be someone's stupid idea.)
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To: newgeezer

Nope.

Enter the word Kwanzaa and....0 results found for “Kwanzaa”


21 posted on 11/14/2007 10:47:28 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: KarlInOhio
Family Tree is not an error in proofreading.

My thought as well.

22 posted on 11/14/2007 10:50:08 AM PST by radiohead (Dissolution of the IRS as we know it - Fred Thompson. Stop...You had me at "dissolution.")
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To: icwhatudo
Company where I work is allowing employees to dress casual on several days for "Winter Event Celebration".

Um, just what "event" are we celebrating?

We're in Florida so it can't be snow.

23 posted on 11/14/2007 11:24:37 AM PST by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: radiohead
I wonder why the AFA is buying their story? They tried the same "oops-it was a mistake" line the last time they got caught.
24 posted on 11/14/2007 11:30:14 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: FReepaholic

The unspeakable event.


25 posted on 11/14/2007 1:04:54 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: icwhatudo

I sure hope that there isn’t an early cut and run in the War on Christmas again this year. The Holiday Bowl always gets a pass even though it is played only a few days after Christmas. The Godless NCAA needs to stop making Touchdown Jesus cry.


26 posted on 11/14/2007 1:51:10 PM PST by FMFreeper
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To: icwhatudo

WELL the orlando target that i go to has a big MERRY CHRISTMAS banner prominently displayed in the middle of the concourse of thier store...


27 posted on 11/14/2007 1:57:47 PM PST by flat
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To: icwhatudo
Yes, Target is acknowledging Christmas this year - big banners inside the store "Merry Christmas"

Christmas music being played at Barnes & Noble.

Sometimes the good guys do win.

28 posted on 11/14/2007 5:30:24 PM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: All

I had fun a couple of years ago by going into K-Mart and hanging out next to the “Holiday Trees”. When someone would come and start eyeing the trees as if they were thinking of buying one, I would talk them out of a “Holiday Tree” and tell them they wanted to go find a store or place that sold Christmas Trees instead. After my evening of fun, I came home and emailed the CEO of K-Mart and told him what I had done. Never heard a word.


29 posted on 11/14/2007 8:37:53 PM PST by dstarr (I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.)
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To: icwhatudo; newgeezer
Gotta get in the holiday spirit when the K-word is mentioned:

On the first day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
A Marxist in a red tree.

On the second day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the third day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Three Dixie Chicks.
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the fourth day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Four Lenin busts.
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the fifth day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Five fel-on-ies.
Four Lenin busts,
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the sixth day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Six Castro jumpsuits.
Five fel-on-ies,
Four Lenin busts,
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

On the seventh day of Kwanzaa Karenga gave to me
Seven Mao pajamas,
Six Castro jumpsuits,
Five fel-on-ies,
Four Lenin busts
Three Dixie Chicks,
Two Jaily birds,
And a Marxist in a red tree.

30 posted on 11/14/2007 8:48:23 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be Exorcised.)
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To: icwhatudo

Last year I tried to buy a Christmas gift certificate at Lowes. They didn’t have any. They had Holiday gift certificates. The manager explained that they didn’t want to offend anybody.


31 posted on 11/14/2007 8:53:59 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Slapshot68
Actually, we got to see the Lowe's Christmas TV ads about five or six weeks ago during one of our manager's meetings, and the folks at Corporate Office specifically said that the word Christmas was going to be used. The catalogs are made by a company that Lowe's has a contract with, so the culprit who missed this isn't even a Lowe's employee. We started receiving all of our Christmas signage back around Labor Day, and all of it says "Merry Christmas".

Last year, during all of this Happy Holiday fiasco, our store was visited by the Regional Manager and his staff. I had a bucket of miniature candy canes sitting on the electrical desk with a sign proclaiming "Merry Christmas". The regional and district managers both commented that it was a good idea, snatched a piece of peppermint, and continued with their tour of the store.

32 posted on 11/14/2007 10:37:41 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Thanks for the inside info. Looks like the AFA exposure got whoever puts together Lowes website to make some changes. Now Christmas brings up 98 returns while Holiday gets 174. I guess it was a little too obvious when both searches brought up exactly the same number of returns. LOL I’m wondering what they took out, holiday wreaths? holiday garland?


33 posted on 11/15/2007 7:13:22 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: steve8714

The banners in Target say Christmas.


34 posted on 11/15/2007 7:18:00 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: icwhatudo

Our Home Depot flyer today was advertising “Miracle Trees”. The photo sure looked like a Christmas Tree to me, but it might be another case of a poor typist or inferior proofreader. I can see how easy it would be to think you’re typing “c-h-r-i-s-t-m-a-s” but end up with “m-i-r-a-c-l-e”. They’re so close. Sheesh.


35 posted on 11/17/2007 9:44:46 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam
Just checked the Home Depot site: they no longer have "Christmas" Trees named on the main website page and instead are calling them Holiday Trees
36 posted on 11/18/2007 11:17:33 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo
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37 posted on 11/18/2007 11:23:38 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo

They were trying really hard not to say Christmas.


38 posted on 11/18/2007 11:33:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: icwhatudo

And when does Santa come?

During the holidays. No particular time. He gets there when he gets there


39 posted on 11/18/2007 11:35:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: icwhatudo

LOL, just got off the line with a customer service rep on their 800-line, she blamed it on “those pc types” and said she would make sure my comments were sent to her supervisor.


40 posted on 11/18/2007 11:38:41 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: Blue Highway
Yeah I bet the reps at Lowes are cursing Christians under their breath for making a big deal about it.

All this makes me wonder how much of LOWE'S is now owned by the ROP. After all they do have ueddels of our money because we won't get our own fuel so aliens have to do it for us.While I'm at it how heavyly is ROP invested in Hollywood and our news media? Is there a way to find out?

41 posted on 11/18/2007 11:40:08 AM PST by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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To: icwhatudo

First it’s “Miracle Tree”, then it’s “Holiday Tree”. Home Depot is sure expending a lot of effort trying to conjure up words to insult Christians.


42 posted on 11/19/2007 10:55:38 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Thanks for setting the record straight about Lowe’s selling CHRISTMAS TREES and wishing their customers a Merry Christmas.


43 posted on 12/02/2007 9:36:59 PM PST by Joya (May God rest your soul in peace, Sean Taylor. Heartfelt condolences to your loved ones.)
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