Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 11/15/2007 9:48:42 AM PST by NCDragon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last
To: NCDragon

They are for the votes nothing else matters.


2 posted on 11/15/2007 9:52:53 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

Eastern Europeans would love to be in America! Give me more POLISH! If the USA needs more labor it is a lie that the labor must come from Mexico!


3 posted on 11/15/2007 9:55:00 AM PST by Mojohemi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

Where are the Democrats? That would be good to know since most have taken all positions at the same time. Unlike the Republicans, many of whom are following their leader in the White House. George Bush has, by his words and actions, taken a strong stand on illegal immigration. He sides with Mexico, illegal immigration and amnesty. Do any Democrats oppose him on this? At least some Republicans do disagree.


4 posted on 11/15/2007 9:57:19 AM PST by FreePaul
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

This article was in the Seattle Times too, coupled with an article about Hillary Clinton stating that she was opposing the drivers’ licensing for illegals. The Hillary article was not positive, saying that she was forced into this position by all the bad press from the debate.


5 posted on 11/15/2007 9:57:24 AM PST by Eva
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
Where are Democrats on illegal immigration?

Same place they are on every other issue - whereever their polls tell them 51% of the public is. ;)

6 posted on 11/15/2007 9:58:31 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
If there is a Democrat that is against Illegal Immigrants, I'll vote for them instead of Rudy.
7 posted on 11/15/2007 10:05:16 AM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon


RUSH: ... New Yorkers, New York liberal Democrats, are livid. They are outraged over the decision by Governor Spitzer to pull his driver's licenses for illegal immigrants plan. First up, Charlie Rangel at the Spitzer press conference.

RANGEL: There is no question that nobody's thinking about identifying, deporting, jailing these people. They are part of our economy; they are part of what America was supposed to be and will continue to be. But, somehow, for political reasons, we've been able to stigmatize to such a degree that those who challenge the system are being called unpatriotic. There's no question that we lack the leadership on the national level to change the tone.

RUSH: You know, Charlie, I tell you, "lack the leadership on the national level to change the tone"? It seems to me that we have a president who tried to change the tone with you people, and when he tried to change the tone with you people, all you did was stomp on him. He led this issue, Charlie. You Democrats stood on the sidelines letting the president take the bullets on this from the American people. You didn't want to get involved because you wanted the Republican Party divided over this. Now that it's boomeranged, as almost everything's done lately on the Democrat side, now, all of a sudden, you're absent leadership on this? What about Senator Clinton? What about Senator Schumer? What about you? What about President Bush? Where were you joining him on this, Charlie, if it's so important?

If these people are the backbone of America -- and, by the way, that's a stretch. Immigrants to America have never been illegal, the backbone of the country, the melting pot. These comments that these guys are making make it clear, do they not, that this is purely a political partisan issue to them. It is those guys who are making this political. They are making it partisan. Those of us who oppose all of this are simply standing for the rule of law, and American tradition; American exceptionalism. Charlie Rangel, Spitzer, Hillary Clinton, any number of Democrats, are doing just the opposite. They're willing to wreck the country's foundations, traditions, and institutions regardless, as long as it gives them more voters and a greater chance to win elections. Now, Gary Ackerman, a congressman from New York, also at the Spitzer press conference today, and he loses it a little.

ACKERMAN: This might not have been the exact right plan, but the governor is on to something, and that is that we have to really be attentive and try to solve this problem. Those people who just want to use the jingoistic terms that are popular, round 'em all up, put 'em on planes and send 'em home, I challenge them. Call the immigration commissioner of this country, tell 'em that you've just caught an illegal immigrant, and you have 'em hog-tied here right in front of the US capitol, come and collect 'em, and I guarantee you no one is going to show up because they don't know what to do with them, and that's the problem.

RUSH: Well, you guys are the ones in Congress, for crying out loud, Ackerman, Rangel, all these people are in Congress, and you're blaming who? It's like you guys are spectators? You're just standing around watching all this? You have no impact on it? You coulda done any number of things about this. By the way, who is it that these people are referring to when they keep talking about rounding 'em up and flying 'em home on airplanes? Nobody was ever talking about deportation. We were talking about border security first. Get that done and stop the flow. Then we'll deal with the problem of the 12 to 20, whatever millions are here. But if you don't do the border first, then nobody is going to take anybody seriously on this issue because we've been here and done that, 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Act. I don't want to relive all this, but I'll tell you what, it's going to be an issue that will be predominant throughout the presidential campaign. And it's about time. This issue should have always been part of the presidential campaign, and now it is.

Liberals Livid Over Spitzer Loss
8 posted on 11/15/2007 10:05:19 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
The Democrats don’t have to take a stand on the issue because the Republicans have supported all sides of the issue in a contentious and fractured manner.

Instead, the Democrats can generalize by throwing out a lot of nice sounding values like border security, path-to-citizenship, racial equality, national health, ethnic values, enforce the law, and, of course, save-the-children.

With those values out in front they can then critique the Republicans for “doing nothing”, “creating a border mess” and any aspect of any fractious plan they cobble together.

While we can damn them for a failure to provide an alternative, they can say, “An alternative to what?”

Enforcing the law in the wake of 9/11 would have been so simple a remedy.

9 posted on 11/15/2007 10:05:32 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
"They know they need immigrants (to make the economy hum), but many also fear the browning of America,"

When someone implies racism in the opposition like this, I can only assume that person is themselves a racist. No, Mr. Fernandez, people fear the breach of the rule of law, they fear gangs that have come from South America, they fear the pressures put on public systems like schools from the swell and influx, and they fear communication barriers in the form of language that creates the "Two Americas" that John Edwards DOESN'T talk about.
12 posted on 11/15/2007 10:08:07 AM PST by jack_napier (Bob? Gun.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

The wrong side as they are on 90% of the issues.Not good.


18 posted on 11/15/2007 10:11:16 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
"People are torn. They know they need immigrants (to make the economy hum), ...

Assuming he means illegal immigrants, I'm full up to here with hearing this stated as if it is fact. No one has shown a shred of evidence this is true. In fact I'm about 99% sure it's false. Yet the left and many too lazy to think for themselves swallow it hook, line and sinker.

19 posted on 11/15/2007 10:11:32 AM PST by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

They stand shoulder to shoulder with the current Administration, Vicente Fox and Felipe Calderon on this subject - all of them.

Which is why they will loose if the Repubs are on the right side of this issue.


20 posted on 11/15/2007 10:11:45 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

There is no confusion about this. Almost every one of them is all for illegal aliens.

Why do some of these people in the media seem so confused?

Purposeful confusion to blur the issue to help the RATs.


21 posted on 11/15/2007 10:12:01 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

“People are torn. They know they need immigrants (to make the economy hum), but many also fear the browning of America,” said Ken Fernandez, an assistant professor of political science at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

What a typical asinine comment from a political science professor. Of course it doesn’t have anything to do with economics, culture, or the rule of law. It’s all about us evil white people fearing the “browning” of America. Geesh!


24 posted on 11/15/2007 10:20:56 AM PST by CitizenUSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

Democrats don’t have a solid opinion, unless they get votes out of it.


25 posted on 11/15/2007 10:21:03 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
And they'll all hope that Republicans are seen as shrill reactionaries.

McClatchy newspapers stands by to help make this possible.

27 posted on 11/15/2007 10:24:45 AM PST by Plutarch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
Where are Democrats on illegal immigration?

They're in favor.
28 posted on 11/15/2007 10:24:45 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

They have so pandered to “minorities” for so long they are slaves to them. So even though each one personally knows that illegal immigration is wrong, they cowardly refuse to so state.


32 posted on 11/15/2007 10:38:27 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon
Where are Democrats on illegal immigration?

They're in Mexico, of course, giving footrubs to the illegals getting ready to invade the US, and telling them how to vote illegally when they get their driver's licenses.
35 posted on 11/15/2007 10:49:07 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NCDragon

They voted for it.

I assume they support it.


37 posted on 11/15/2007 10:52:40 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson