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Deconstructing Pipes (Mitt Romney's Real Health Care Record)
Town Hall ^ | 15 November 2007 | Sally Canfield

Posted on 11/17/2007 6:22:10 AM PST by Spiff

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To: Leisler

“The country didn’t want it. Gov workers got theirs. Private workers got theirs and didn’t want them touched. The poor got the state, as always. And working class/small business have no one, so political, they’re zero.

I think that about covers it.”

Gov workers: To some point I’m sure it’s neligible...depending how fast costs rise.

Workers: Not necessarily.
Majority of Americans Want Health Insurance Choice: Poll
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/medicarehealthinsurance/a/healthchioce.htm

“72% of those polled (1,001 likely voters) supported allowing someone living in one state to purchase health insurance from another state, if the insurance is state-regulated and approved. (15% were opposed and 13% were not sure.)”

These workers benefit most from interstate commerce, as does any consumer when you expand trade bands.

The poor: Actually according to the above poll...

“80% of single adults and people with annual household incomes between $15,000 and $24,999 support this option.”

“Interestingly, Republicans and higher-income workers are more likely to be opposed.”

Small business: Not sure what you’re saying there, but small business seems have significant clout with the Bush admin on illegal immigration. They’re suffering the most...especially in terms of competiting with big business benefits.

They’re organization have the most to gain if Bush-like medical plans could go through.


Congress just wasn’t focused on that part of the economy. And frankly I think state insures want to perpetuate this as long as they can...since profits are much easier in state restricted markets. Especially when there’s all these mandates.

So I’d say it’s financial, plus the dems want to move it over to universal...so they can destroy the military budget.


41 posted on 11/17/2007 11:58:03 AM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Spiff
Sally Pipes is a health care advisor to Rudy Giuliani.

She's no relation to Daniel Pipes. But she is married to Charles R. Kesler, who also writes about politics.

42 posted on 11/17/2007 12:10:51 PM PST by x
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To: Rick_Michael

You would of thought the Justice Dept, under the commerce clause would of ripped down state insurance barriers. But, what would be next, physicians licenses and ....lawyers? God forbid professional service guilds feel competitive heat.


43 posted on 11/17/2007 12:22:02 PM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Leisler

~”What planet are you on? They could do anything they wanted, and did. Where do you think the spending came from? From the House?

Oppose the President? Bush didn’t say boo. He never even vetoed a bill until this year. There was nothing to oppose.”~

I was talking about the House. A Republican congress cannot oppose a Republican President under normal circumstances - the President is the leader in that situation, not the Speaker of the House. It’s generally too politicall unpalatable otherwise - you fracture the party and give your opposition running room.

The House is filled with (R)’s who were frustrated that the President kept asking them to violate their conservative principles, particularly in the fiscal arena. It was only when huge issues, such as immigration, came up that they were able to muster the political capital to oppose him. Otherwise, they pretty much had to toe the line. It’s the nature of the system.

That is how it works here on Earth, you see. You might want to visit some time.


44 posted on 11/17/2007 2:48:31 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I am being forced now to pick up the tab for the freeloaders. Not that I will be forced, not that I will sometime in future will be forced I am being forced now and tax is buried in my premiums. It is socialism signed by Reagan and enforced by the courts. And the IMPEACHMENTS ARE NOT HAPPENING. Government can mitigate the damage in the hopes of preventing “witchcare”
but doing nothing will bring the witch. Romneycare is a mitigation of lasting damage. It cannot be solved completely until the IMPEACHMENTS come. You must spread the risk otherwise Hillary wins.


45 posted on 11/17/2007 4:57:02 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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