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To: SteamShovel

Although she can always opt to lose the weight if she truly does want to live her remainder in NZ. Being overweight does not have to be permanent.


17 posted on 11/17/2007 7:18:11 AM PST by Xenophon450 (They say it's lonely at the top, then I am as lonely as can be.)
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To: Xenophon450
Although she can always opt to lose the weight if she truly does want to live her remainder in NZ.

You are right. I didn't say NZ should let her in, they have the right of refusal since she is not a citizen.

My point was more toward where I see the USA heading in the treatment of it's own citizens.

On the point of permanent overweight-ness, I agree to a point. Some people do have the deck stacked against them in terms of genetics or injury. I know a guy who has always been a big person (as in Paul Bunyan). He was big, muscular, and athletic when young. He injured both knees at about 18 years old. Now he's about 60 years old and about 300 pounds (a good part of that is still brawny muscle), mostly because his knees have limited his mobility for his entire adult life. The man is an engineer and creates greatly to the economy by his work. He easily produces more economic value than he is costing in healthcare.

I honestly don't see how it is anyone's business but his own. Hillarycare will not be kind to him because of the socialist "public interest" factor. He could have the mind of Einstein, producing billions for a company. But he will be deemed a dreg not worthy of care by the company benefit bean counters or Hillarycare bureaucrats.

In the present system, at least he can choose where to go for medical care and even pay for it himself if he chose. Under Hillarycare, he will be legally prevented from going to a Dr. at his own expense.

37 posted on 11/17/2007 7:47:08 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Xenophon450

I have done research on this when my former employer (a hospital) wanted to institute a policy not to hire fat people. What I found out was that fatties weren’t any more costly to the system than anyone else (skinny people can have huge problems due to heredity and bad health behavior). However, the person with the biggest medical costs was a guy in human resources who had a little boy with congenital heart problems— he was a premie and lived to be 7 years old.

If this couple could pass a physical exam, then they should have been allowed into NZ. She is no bigger than some of the Maori women. I don’t like the direction any of this is going.


135 posted on 11/19/2007 3:16:53 PM PST by Sioux-san
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