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World Should Give Thanks To America (Mark Steyn On American Exceptionalism Alert)
Orange County Register ^ | 11/18/2007 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/17/2007 9:40:53 AM PST by goldstategop

So Americans should be thankful they have one of the last functioning nation-states. Europeans, because they've been so inept at exercising it, no longer believe in national sovereignty, whereas it would never occur to Americans not to. This profoundly different attitude to the nation-state underpins, in turn, Euro-American attitudes to transnational institutions such as the United Nations.

But on this Thanksgiving the rest of the world ought to give thanks to American national sovereignty, too. When something terrible and destructive happens – a tsunami hits Indonesia, an earthquake devastates Pakistan – the United States can project itself anywhere on the planet within hours and start saving lives, setting up hospitals and restoring the water supply.

Aside from Britain and France, the Europeans cannot project power in any meaningful way anywhere. When they sign on to an enterprise they claim to believe in – shoring up Afghanistan's fledgling post-Taliban democracy – most of them send token forces under constrained rules of engagement that prevent them doing anything more than manning the photocopier back at the base.

If America were to follow the Europeans and maintain only shriveled attenuated residual military capacity, the world would very quickly be nastier and bloodier, and far more unstable. It's not just Americans and Iraqis and Afghans who owe a debt of thanks to the U.S. soldier but all the Europeans grown plump and prosperous in a globalized economy guaranteed by the most benign hegemon in history.

That said, Thanksgiving isn't about the big geopolitical picture, but about the blessings closer to home.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: america; benignhegemon; blessgod; conservatism; constitution; exceptionalism; freedom; hyperpower; marksteyn; nationalism; ocregister; proamerican; steyn; thanksgiving; thankyou
It is said America is the exceptional nation. Europeans don't understand just how tradition-minded America is. This is underlined by the national celebration of Thanksgiving. The existence of the world's only real nation-state hyper-power has made the world a more prosperous, safer and freer place. Not only for the world but for America herself at home. As Mark Steyn would have it: "Happy Thanksgiving!"

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 11/17/2007 9:40:55 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

bump


2 posted on 11/17/2007 9:43:29 AM PST by VOA
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To: goldstategop

Every morning when I put up my flag, I thank God that my grandparents had the courage and foresight to come to the United States from Germany, England, and Wales, and that I am an American.


3 posted on 11/17/2007 9:50:17 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: goldstategop

I second MS’s sentiments, being the son of refugees from Europe’s most recent totalitarian phases; but Europe has a tendency to project many of its ills onto the US, its benefactor. (Those ills include festering/erupting Islamofascism and an undercurrent of anti-semitism.) There are hopeful signs too (e.g., Sarkozy) but the overall trend is not the direction we’d like to see.


4 posted on 11/17/2007 9:54:12 AM PST by bajabaja
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To: hsalaw

I’m glad my great-grandparents came here, making me third-generation American.


5 posted on 11/17/2007 9:56:06 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: bajabaja
Post modern Europe is a museum piece. There's storied history behind it but no real passion and no real life. The continent is like an animatronic display. In contrast, American history is always being made anew, even as it does revere its origins. Its a very striking difference.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 11/17/2007 9:58:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: wastedyears
I am a first generation American and I am an offspring of the New World too.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 11/17/2007 9:59:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Mark Steyn mentions that America and the world would be in deep doo doo if America copied the europeans and scaled back its military. He also states that the europeans have prospered under America’s protection.

With the recent exception of Sarkozy’s France, europe is just plain ungrateful for what America has offered. Which underscores the fact that none of those european countries has a Thanksgiving Day of its own.


8 posted on 11/17/2007 10:03:11 AM PST by Vision Thing (hillary is unstable.)
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To: goldstategop

Interesting comment in light of Europe’s (especially Italy’s) imploding demographics. I have to travel there in a few months. My impression thus far is that they have lost something spiritually, perhaps several decades ago. The media and contacts I do have seem to view the US as a place run by religious “extremists” who handle snakes. I expected a more educated and informed view of the US and its religious. Che, on the otherhand, gets plaudits — from European adults. Yikes.


9 posted on 11/17/2007 10:10:45 AM PST by bajabaja
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To: goldstategop

btt


10 posted on 11/17/2007 10:16:18 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bajabaja
Europeans, because they've been so inept at exercising it, no longer believe in national sovereignty, whereas it would never occur to Americans not to.

Excuse me, but has Mark Steyn heard about the invasion from the south; the marches in our streets by illegal aliens; the border patrol agents in prison? Has he heard the President call the Minutemen vigilantes?

Someone is out of touch with what's going on around here.

11 posted on 11/17/2007 10:30:15 AM PST by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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Awesome Mark Steyn BUMP!!!


12 posted on 11/17/2007 10:30:39 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: goldstategop
Having worked outside of the USA for a few years, I understand when people say "Oh THAT America again!!!". When you are not a super power, we can feel overwhelming.

However, I would always say to my friends - "So ask yourself. What would the world be today if there was no USA? That's not a self proud, arrogant boast. That's a comment on world security - past and present."

There will always be super powers with various agendas. I thank my lucky (50) stars that one like my country is one.

13 posted on 11/17/2007 10:33:53 AM PST by llevrok (Born a ham and never cured.)
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To: VOA

bumpity-bump


14 posted on 11/17/2007 10:40:12 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: goldstategop

A friend of mine at work just turned 50. Another friend was giving him a hard time and e-mailing the whole office that “Dave” had just turned 50.

I replied back “In 19 countries in the world, the average person is dead before they hit 50. It’s great that Dave can be happy and healthy when turning 50. It’s great that we live in this country!”

We have much to be thankful for.


15 posted on 11/17/2007 10:45:27 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: goldstategop

My tagline...


16 posted on 11/17/2007 10:45:35 AM PST by rickmichaels (God Bless America, Land That I Love)
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To: donna
The American people are protective of our national sovereignty and demand our borders be secured. Our elites may have lost faith in America as a special nation but the American people still believe in the greatness of our country and in a destiny that has no limits.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 11/17/2007 10:51:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Steyn bump


18 posted on 11/17/2007 11:19:57 AM PST by Christian4Bush (DriveByMedia: Good news, no party affiliation: Republican. Bad news, no party affiliation: Democrat.)
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To: goldstategop
Mark Steyn is Canada’s greatest export!
19 posted on 11/17/2007 11:47:35 AM PST by RJL
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To: wastedyears
"I’m glad my great-grandparents came here, making me third-generation American."

I just found out my American ancestors are decended from the Mayflower groups. Exciting and interesting. Hubby, on the other hand, was third-generation. His people came from Bohemia in the 1850's and 60's. America is such a great place. I'm so proud to be American!

20 posted on 11/17/2007 11:49:50 AM PST by redhead (VICTORY FIRST, THEN PEACE)
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To: goldstategop

Who are they voting for?


21 posted on 11/17/2007 12:02:12 PM PST by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: goldstategop

Wonderful article, thanks so much for posting!

I love the way Steyn thinks—and I’m always LOL at the way he writes :)

We truly are blessed. Thanksgiving has always been one of my favorite holidays, for all the factors expressed here and for many other reasons as well. Praise God for blessing America as He has, so graciously.

A joyful and happy Thankshiving to all!


22 posted on 11/17/2007 12:21:08 PM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: bajabaja
"educated...view"

I know my Brit in-laws get a lot of their info from Michael Moore (not to mention the Beeb). Their viewpoint is decidedly left of mine. Nice people, judging from my in-laws, not all foreigners are well-informed. They're as ignorant as many of us Yanks about what's going on in the world.

23 posted on 11/17/2007 12:41:33 PM PST by driftless2
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To: donna
I think you might enjoy Steyn's America Alone. Believe me, if there's a fellow on the planet who is all over the immigration issue, it's Steyn.
24 posted on 11/17/2007 12:57:07 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: goldstategop

Mark S...nails it once again.


25 posted on 11/17/2007 12:58:10 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: goldstategop

Fred for President. Mark Steyn for Fred’s Karl Rove.


26 posted on 11/17/2007 2:38:52 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: Vision Thing
Mark Steyn mentions that America and the world would be in deep doo doo if America copied the europeans and scaled back its military. He also states that the europeans have prospered under America’s protection.

Yes, it rankles that they deride us while counting on our sacrifice of our finest youths for their survival.

(By the way, I've had the same tagline for months. He must have recycled it, because it's in this column, too.)

27 posted on 11/17/2007 2:54:21 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: goldstategop; donna
Europeans, because they've been so inept at exercising it, no longer believe in national sovereignty, whereas it would never occur to Americans not to.

One would have never believed Americans would ever give up their personal sovereignty, either, but that's long gone.

28 posted on 11/17/2007 3:49:12 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: goldstategop
Post modern Europe is a museum piece. There's storied history behind it but no real passion and no real life

Yes, to paraphase Barzini, "Europe is proud of its past. America is proud of its future." Of course, he said that before the leftwing 'rats seized contol of the cultural heights.

29 posted on 11/17/2007 4:12:43 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
...to paraphase Barzini, "Europe is proud of its past. America is proud of its future."

Don't you just love Barzini? Thanks for mentioning him. I read both his book about Italy and the one about the U.S.

30 posted on 11/17/2007 4:31:32 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: goldstategop
American corporate titans sniff that they can go anywhere in the world for talent and labor.

American taxpayers foot the bill for that opportunity.

That's a "free trade" subsidy in action.

The problem is that these thugs are killing the goose that laid their golden nest eggs.

See tag line.

31 posted on 11/17/2007 8:05:42 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: goldstategop; All

“I come as one who wishes you
to fulfill completely
your noble destiny
of service to the world.”

Those were the words of Pope John Paul upon his first visit to America.


32 posted on 11/17/2007 8:43:06 PM PST by CyberAnt (America: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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To: CyberAnt

Splendid and truthfilled tagline you have there, CyberAnt.


33 posted on 11/17/2007 10:26:27 PM PST by SierraWasp (If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
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To: donna
Perhaps it is your scale which is out of touch.
34 posted on 11/17/2007 10:29:45 PM PST by Hornitos
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To: goldstategop
No thanks to Ron Paul, who ought to be running for President of Liechtenstein's bierhaus council, not America.
35 posted on 11/17/2007 10:32:50 PM PST by Hornitos
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To: redhead

Some of my ancestors came from somewhere in Asia, probabl;y about 10,000 years ago. Some came from Western Europe a few hundred years ago. All the same, America really began in 1776.


36 posted on 11/17/2007 10:41:11 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Hornitos

Knock off the personal insults.


37 posted on 11/17/2007 11:22:06 PM PST by donna (ADHD - Absent Dad/Husband Disorder)
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To: goldstategop

Mark Steyn: Among the greatest Americans ever to be born outside the USA.


38 posted on 11/17/2007 11:24:31 PM PST by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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To: donna
Not a personal insult, just an observation. Allow me clarity:

Perhaps it is your sense of scale which is out of touch.

There is no invasion happening. An invasion is one nation's incursion into another with the intent of conquering and plundering. These are overwhelmingly destitute people coming for work. Yes, there was one large march in the streets back in March, organized by George Soros, as protected by the 1st Amendment. Yes, there are two Border Patrol agents in prison, out of maybe 12,000, who were convicted of shooting two unarmed men in the backs as they were running into Mexico, but their convictions were meted out by Americans in an American court of law, not by Mexicans. The other 11,998 Border Patrol agents are not in prison, but are on the job. And yes, President Bush did call the general actions of Minutemen 'vigilantes' as if our national sovereignty depended on men sitting in lawn chairs.

Taken as a whole, your apparent contention that Americans no longer believe in national sovereignty is out of touch.

39 posted on 11/18/2007 6:05:20 AM PST by Hornitos
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To: SierraWasp

Thanks! But .. I can’t take credit for it - I heard Rush Limbaugh say it and it just struck a cord with me.


40 posted on 11/18/2007 9:16:17 AM PST by CyberAnt (America: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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To: Hornitos
No estan claro.

It is an invasion. Why? Numbers, concentration over a short time period, the illegality of entry, the sanctioning and the promotion thereof by Mexican authorities and government.

And indeed to your other point, national sovereignity. Many Americans do have a problem understanding what nation-hood means anymore, as they have been inculcated in media, textbooks and teachings to view us as world citizens. Thankfully there is a vibrant and growing number of citizens who DO understand, who have re-educated themselves to those things about law, civics and history which only two generations ago were standard curriculum. In fact, we auto-redactors may now be the majority.

41 posted on 11/18/2007 11:02:48 AM PST by bvw
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To: goldstategop
MS BUMP

But Americans aren't novelty junkies on the important things. The New World is one of the oldest settled constitutional democracies on Earth, to a degree the Old World can barely comprehend. Where it counts, Americans are traditionalists.

We know Eastern Europe was a totalitarian prison until the Nineties, but we forget that Mediterranean Europe (Greece, Spain, Portugal) has democratic roots going all the way back until, oh, the mid-Seventies; France and Germany's constitutions date back barely half a century, Italy's only to the 1940s, and Belgium's goes back about 20 minutes, and currently it's not clear whether even that latest rewrite remains operative. The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's, Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put together.

Americans think of Europe as Goethe and Mozart and 12th century castles and 6th century churches, but the Continent's governing mechanisms are no more ancient than the Partridge Family. Aside from the Anglophone democracies, most of the nation-states in the West have been conspicuous failures at sustaining peaceful political evolution from one generation to the next, which is why they're so susceptible to the siren song of Big Ideas – communism, fascism, European Union.

If you're going to be novelty-crazed, better the zebra-mussel cappuccino than the Third Reich.

42 posted on 11/18/2007 11:37:38 AM PST by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: Hornitos

Obviously, you are a slaver owner.


43 posted on 11/18/2007 1:41:07 PM PST by donna (ADHD - Absent Dad/Husband Disorder)
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To: CyberAnt

Well, as far as I’m concerned... Rush has been one of the biggest forces for good in the USA!!!


44 posted on 11/18/2007 3:00:53 PM PST by SierraWasp (If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
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To: Hornitos; donna; AuntB; Issaquahking

Perhaps it is just your delirious point of view, but you’re out of your danged gourd there, horny toad!!!


45 posted on 11/18/2007 3:07:09 PM PST by SierraWasp (If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Duncan Hunter: " I will never apologize for the United States of America"

Iowa Speech, Aug. 2007

http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2007/08/duncan_hunter_gave_fantastic_s.html

46 posted on 11/18/2007 5:38:06 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
" I will never apologize for the United States of America"
47 posted on 11/20/2007 11:33:15 AM PST by jokar (The Church age is the only time we will be able to Glorify God, http://www.gbible.org)
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