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Rudy's Right About Romney's Immigration Pose
NY Observer ^

Posted on 11/17/2007 1:42:57 PM PST by Brices Crossroads

Call it a case of right message, wrong messenger.

Attacked by Mitt Romney for his lax record on illegal immigration as mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani returned fire on Wednesday, charging that as Governor of Massachusetts, Mr. Romney “did very little about (immigration) until the last day or two he was in office—and it never had any impact.”

Granted, the former mayor is the last person who should be advancing this argument. He’s playing the same disingenuous game that Mr. Romney is: pretending that his commitment to an immigration crackdown is anything other than an opportunistic ploy born of the political imperatives that come with running as a Republican in 2008.

But it’s Mr. Romney’s hypocrisy on this subject that is particularly telling, because it fits seamlessly with the camouflaging he’s done on practically every issue of consequence to the G.O.P. electorate. He has campaigned in 2007 as the conservative’s conservative, but he showed absolutely no interest in building such a record in Massachusetts when he had the opportunity. [snip] Consider the centerpiece of his I-got-tough-on-illegals boast: his move to use the State Police to enforce immigration laws.

He launched the initiative in the middle of 2006—with just months remaining on his term and well into a lame-duck period that had begun the year before—when it became clear how important the issue would be in the G.O.P. presidential primary. On the State Police issue, Mr. Giuliani’s critique is squarely on point: Mr. Romney’s order, which would have required several months of training for a select few state troopers before it could be implemented, never went into effect.

It was, of course, all for show—for an audience in Iowa and South Carolina, and not in Massachusetts. [Snip] Now, he wants Republicans to believe he’s Tom Tancredo with electability.

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: huckabee; romney; rudy
The right messenger is Fred Thompson. Rudy McRomney and Huckabee are open borders guys. Mitt wants to cut off sanctuary cities now but there were 6 when he was governor and he had the power to do something. He did nothing. WIth him, it is always: "I am going to do something but it is always something in the future. When he actually has the power, he either does nothing or, worse still, does the wrong thing. (like $50 abortions and implementing same sex marriage.)
1 posted on 11/17/2007 1:42:58 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: fieldmarshaldj; greyfoxx39; Petronski; Josh Painter; Finny; Clara Lou; perfect_rovian_storm; ...

Fred secure the borders ping!


2 posted on 11/17/2007 1:44:03 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

Fred Bump!


3 posted on 11/17/2007 1:46:28 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE)
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From the article:
 

Consider the centerpiece of his I-got-tough-on-illegals boast: his move to use the State Police to enforce immigration laws.

He launched the initiative in the middle of 2006—with just months remaining on his term and well into a lame-duck period that had begun the year before—when it became clear how important the issue would be in the G.O.P. presidential primary. He finally received the necessary clearance from the federal government in December, in his administration’s final days, and then issued (and loudly trumpeted) an executive order—even though the Governor-elect, a Democrat whose landslide win was partly attributable to irate voters who felt Mr. Romney quit on his job in order to run for President, had made it clear that he would immediately rescind the order upon taking office.

On the State Police issue, Mr. Giuliani’s critique is squarely on point: Mr. Romney’s order, which would have required several months of training for a select few state troopers before it could be implemented, never went into effect.

It was, of course, all for show—for an audience in Iowa and South Carolina, and not in Massachusetts. What Mr. Romney sought to do was actually rather complicated, given the questions of which state troops would be selected to enforce immigration laws, how they would be trained (and at what cost), and how the program might effect existing relationships between the police and illegal immigrants who were willing to provide information that might prevent crimes. But he pursued it in a sloppy, last-minute fashion that made it only too easy for his successor to scrap the whole plan without paying a political price.

4 posted on 11/17/2007 1:52:00 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE)
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To: Brices Crossroads
RINO-rudy's "playing the same disingenuous game that Mr. Romney is"

Liberals and Liberal RINOs tend to do these things when running for high office.

5 posted on 11/17/2007 2:21:19 PM PST by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: greyfoxx39

“he pursued it in a sloppy, last-minute fashion.”

Wait, this can’t be true. Mitt is a great manager. You can take his word for it. LOL


6 posted on 11/17/2007 2:28:46 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

Roody, Slick Willard and Chuckwagon are a bunch of RINO Ninnies. Duncan Hunter Hunter has been the most effective candidate on securing our borders, building the double fence in San Diego with a high speed border patrol road in-between, cutting illegal traffic by 90%, reducing crime in San Diego 53%, including illegal drug trafficking. He also authored the House Bill that mandates the completion of the fence across Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, all 854 miles that includes a climb-proof barrier. The bill was signed into law by President Bush in October 2007. Hunter says that border security is national security.

(Note I’m not attacking Fred, I’m merely pointing out that Duncan Hunter is a better and more solid conservative candidate with a proven track record.)


7 posted on 11/17/2007 2:38:05 PM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Mr. Romney “did very little about (immigration) until the last day or two he was in office—and it never had any impact.”

The only way judy figured that out was from reading my posts. Pot calls Kettle Black!

8 posted on 11/17/2007 5:08:44 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Wait, this can’t be true. Mitt is a great manager. You can take his word for it.

By the time you ask Oven Mitt, he'll give a different answer. I'm sure he'll have another deathbed conversion!

9 posted on 11/17/2007 5:13:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Rudy rips Romney apart...Romney rips Rudy and Huckabee apart, McCain shot himself in the foot a long time ago, and Fred Thompson reaps the rewards he has coming due. Fred is the right candidate for Conservatives and the right President for the United States. When it comes down between Fred and Rudy in the primaries, Fred will win. People are waking up to all they hype around the two "front runners" in the Republican race.

The MSM is going to have egg on their faces for so boldly backing Rudy. Fred Thompson is going to have them all for lunch...and win the nomination. Oh yea have little faith?

10 posted on 11/17/2007 5:21:26 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER, and a LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

In this short video Romney gives part of his plan of how to deal with the tens of millions of illegals here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpUNVRNVk-E


11 posted on 11/17/2007 6:07:16 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Sorry,
I used the word illegal, I should have said “here contrary to law”.


12 posted on 11/17/2007 6:10:51 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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