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To: Jim Robinson

You currently don’t get to opt out of paying for people’s free rides at the ER.

Romney’s plan just shifts that money towards helping to subsidize private health insurance instead.

Now, I agree with you that abortion should not be covered by *any* health insurance plans, but abortion ought to be addressed outside of the health care debate. Outlaw abortion on a national level, and your anti-Romneycare argument crumbles.

They’re two separate issues, and on a national level, the Republicans wield enough influence to prohibit coverage of abortions.

But this is the liberal state of Marxachusetts we’re talking about. They have chosen to make abortion legal, and make it a priority. It needs to be addressed through the courts via the 14th amendment angle.


50 posted on 11/18/2007 5:37:04 PM PST by bw17
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To: bw17

Romney’s plan is socialism and it won’t save a dime. It’ll end up costing the taxpayers 10 times or more whatever they claimed it would cost. It also deprives people of free market choices. It’s one step closer to universal health care. One step closer to “free” (socialized) medicine for all. One step closer to tyranny.


53 posted on 11/18/2007 5:42:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: bw17

I don’t know about other people here, but the last trip I made to the ER (for a lodged kidney stone - very painful) I had to wait in line for two hours while they took illegals with runny noses, stubbed toes, plantars warts and hangnails in front of me. They have no insurance because they’re working off the books for scum employers and paying no taxes. They use the ER as their primary care physician’s office. I’m sure this is the case in Mass. as well. How does forcing socialized healthcare fix that?


55 posted on 11/18/2007 5:45:37 PM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: bw17
You are a voice of sanity on this thread. There are too many purists on this issue who refuse to deviate from their idealistic position. The current system has socialized medicine via free ER visits / medicare / medicaid BUT forcing these freeloaders to buy their own insurance is socialism ? I am afraid on this issue logic will not convert anyone because they automatically call Romney care socialized medicine without looking at the facts.
65 posted on 11/18/2007 5:57:13 PM PST by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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