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Clinton-Obama-Bush Doctrine
NY Sun ^ | 11/19/2007 | Editor

Posted on 11/19/2007 3:49:39 AM PST by sono

The big news out of the most recent Democratic presidential debate was that two of the leading Democratic candidates, Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, endorsed the Bush Doctrine that is at the core of our current president's foreign policy. We haven't seen it reported anywhere else, but it's a big story. Here's what Mrs. Clinton said: "There's absolutely a connection between a democratic regime and heightened security for the United States." Here's what Mr. Obama said: "The more we see repression, the more there are no outlets for how people can express themselves and their aspirations, the worse off we're going to be, and the more anti-American sentiment there's going to be in the Middle East."

Or, as President Bush has put it in enunciating what has come to be known as the Bush Doctrine: "For decades, free nations tolerated oppression in the Middle East for the sake of stability. In practice, this approach brought little stability and much oppression, so I have changed this policy." Or, as he put it again, "Some who call themselves realists question whether the spread of democracy in the Middle East should be any concern of ours. But the realists in this case have lost contact with a fundamental reality: America has always been less secure when freedom is in retreat; America is always more secure when freedom is on the march."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; democracy; obama
I'm still looking for THIS wing of the Democrat Party:

"We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Innaugural Address 1961
1 posted on 11/19/2007 3:49:40 AM PST by sono
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To: sono
I'm still looking for THIS wing of the Democrat Party:

"We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Inaugural Address 1961

He was FAR to the right of any current major democrat officeholder, but still left of Reagan, Goldwater or even Nixon. That "wing" of the democrat party pretty much disappeared in 1972, and hasn't been seen since. JFK also cut taxes, which is anathema to the socialists that now hold the reins of his party. They should just rename themselves the Socialist Progressive party or some such.

2 posted on 11/19/2007 3:59:21 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; sono

The bigger question is where did those voters go?


3 posted on 11/19/2007 4:00:42 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Dahoser
I believe many were the “Reagan democrats” that we subsequently lost in the intervening years.
4 posted on 11/19/2007 4:04:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: sono

I heard an interesting theory concerning all this, either on Neal Boortz’s radio show or Rush’s... I can’t remember which...... he said that he thinks Hillary and Obama need and want all the donated money from organizations like moveon.org so they have to look as though they oppose the war. Once the primary’s are over and/or they think they have gotten all the money they need from the radical left then they can move towards the center on the issue (as though they now see the light) and attempt to capture the votes of some of the huge majority of Americans who know now that the war is winning and doing a lot of good. Then of course once elected, they think they can assume the position of commander in chief and take all the credit for winning the war.


5 posted on 11/19/2007 4:09:34 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, I agree. I just wonder why they’ve stayed away after Klintoon’s first term exposed him as a socialist instead of the centrist he claimed to be and the national RATS are going farther left each election.


6 posted on 11/19/2007 4:15:30 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: sono
We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

Democrats always talk a good fight.

They just do not have the stomach to finish it.

JFK's foreign policy was a diaster that almost led to a nuclear war.

7 posted on 11/19/2007 4:24:27 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: sono

“Im still looking for THIS wing of the Democrat Party:

“We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.”
John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Innaugural Address 1961”

The Democrat party is no longer Democratic. It has been hi-jacked by very evil people and is now the party of “DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN HER”.

I realize I have summed up the obvious.


8 posted on 11/19/2007 4:57:05 AM PST by RoadTest ("The Lord bringeth the council of the heathen to naught" - Psalm 33, verse 10)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

What you say is much like what usually happens. The most firebrand (insert political leaning) usually moves to the center, after being elected President.


9 posted on 11/19/2007 4:59:30 AM PST by RoadTest ("The Lord bringeth the council of the heathen to naught" - Psalm 33, verse 10)
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To: sono
Mrs. Clinton said: "There's absolutely a connection between a democratic regime...."

Spoken like a true commie.

10 posted on 11/19/2007 5:58:04 AM PST by onedoug
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