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Huckabee: Abortion Not States' Call
Newsmax ^ | Nov. 18, 2007

Posted on 11/19/2007 5:32:58 AM PST by the tongue

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To: the tongue
"What would Huckabee do to secure America's border against millions of illegal immigrants pouring into our country? According to his ad, 'Two words: Chuck Norris,'

So Huckleberry thinks putting a bad actor on the border is going to stop illegals from sneaking across it? Or are they going to set up a big screen and show chuck Norris B movie re-runs and scare them away?

What a stupid add.

21 posted on 11/19/2007 5:51:58 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Miss Didi

Mike Huckabee: For states’ rights before he was against states’ rights http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1927726/posts


22 posted on 11/19/2007 5:52:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: nmh

“Huckabee rejects Constitution as viable entity”

this is a totally misleading title.


I agree. I’m not a Huckabee supporter but this is the second misleading title on Huckabee that I’ve read in the last 5 minutes.


23 posted on 11/19/2007 5:56:00 AM PST by kidd
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
the US quit pretending black folk were only 3/5ths human.

You do understand that the "3/5 clause" was there specifically to limit the power of the slave states, right? That is, it wasn't that the framers believed black folk were less human, but rather that they didn't want the electoral power of slave states to be buttressed by counting population that weren't even treated as full citizens.

24 posted on 11/19/2007 5:59:07 AM PST by kevkrom ("Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?" - FDT)
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To: the tongue; Sidebar Moderator
Posted yesterday under correct headline

Huckabee Says Abortion Not for States
Posted by dano1
On News/Activism 11/18/2007 2:10:42 PM CST · 200 replies
The Associated Press 11/18/07 WILL LESTER

25 posted on 11/19/2007 6:00:10 AM PST by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Miss Didi
Bob Novak did not have great things to say about Huckabee on Fox & Friends this morning.

I heard that. Mainly because Huck is a pro-tax Governor. Any Pro-Huckers want to comment on that? I'm voting here in Iowa in a few weeks, and I want to vote Huck, but I'm not voting for higher taxes.

26 posted on 11/19/2007 6:02:11 AM PST by bigjoesaddle ("By Grabthar's hammer......what a savings")
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To: Nathan Zachary
So Huckleberry thinks putting a bad actor on the border is going to stop illegals from sneaking across it?

Sounds like a special two-part episode of Walker: Border Patrol Ranger is in the works.

27 posted on 11/19/2007 6:02:36 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“Yes, actually. I’ve even read the 10th amendment, and understand why it was put there in the first place.”

Oh, so you PREFER haphazard standards when it comes to killing babies. UNLIKE slavery that is ILLEGAL in ANY state?

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Abortion needs to be ILLEGAL in EVERY state - just like slavery.

I have NO DOUBT that our founders would NOT want abortion legal in ANY state.


28 posted on 11/19/2007 6:02:40 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: alicewonders
The media is pushing this man too much! It’s time to STOP letting the media control who gets to represent us.

It's not the media, it's Iowa caucus-goers. The last six or so polls out of Iowa show it to be a two-man race between Romney and Huckabee.

29 posted on 11/19/2007 6:04:07 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: nmh

One thing should be clear, Fred Thompson has the most cogent and realistic stand on abortion of anyone running.....overturn Roe vs Wade and chip away at the foundations of abortion at the state level. Being for a constitutional amendment banning abortion is all well and good for show but Fred like many of us understands that the liklihood of it ever passing in our lifetime is practically nil.


30 posted on 11/19/2007 6:07:00 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Not all states will make abortion ILLEGAL and you know it.
And that is the problem.

Slavery was made illegal:

Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

It’s time to make abortion explicitedly ILLEGAL as well. It should be UNDERSTOOD that it MURDER should NEVER be legalized as abortion ... so it’s time to recognize abortion for what it is and make it ILLEGAL to murder an UNborn person or one about to be born.

31 posted on 11/19/2007 6:07:23 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: OCCASparky
Your ignorance is amazing.

You could not possible have read the Constitution or the Bill of Rights with the asinine answer you gave me. Or maybe you're ability to comprehend is way off.

32 posted on 11/19/2007 6:09:31 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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"It's the logic of the Civil War," Huckabee said Sunday, comparing abortion rights to slavery. "If morality is the point here, and if it's right or wrong, not just a political question, then you can't have 50 different versions of what's right and what's wrong."

Huckabee is 100% right on this issue, and it is one of the two most important issues facing this country.

33 posted on 11/19/2007 6:10:13 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: nmh; the tongue
"Our Constitution is fine. Outlawing abortion fits in with our Constitution just as making slavery ILLEGAL fits in to our Constitution."

"I wonder, have ANY of you even read the Constitution or the Bill of Rights? Or just like to turn your nose up at the documents in sheer ignorance?"


Huckabee knows as much about the Constitution as Ron Paul.

Some facts:

- The Civil War did not end slavery or grant any rights to slaves/former-slaves, the 13th, 14th & 15th Amendment to the Constitution did this.

- The 13th, 14th & 15th Amendment grant rights specifically to slaves, those born or naturalized in the US, and voters, respectively.

How do Huckaabee and you see this as applying to unborn babies?

* * Note: I morally disagree with abortion also and believe Roe v. Wade should be overturned... so don't give me an arguement on this but ONLY on the Constitution & its existing Amendments.

34 posted on 11/19/2007 6:10:45 AM PST by drpix
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To: nmh

I am pro life, myself, but let me ask you a question. Is there a federal law that says murder is illegal? I don’t think there is, and if abortion is murder, as many believe, why must there be a federal law against just that kind of murder?


35 posted on 11/19/2007 6:13:08 AM PST by Rider on the Rain
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To: traderrob6
I used to be a Fred fan ... now I’m not so sure ... .

On abortion, Fred is more of an appeaser that a leader.

Mike is RIGHT on this issue.

It’s hard to believe that making SLAVERY illegal is okay but to pretend that murdering a small human being should continue, haphazardly at the “state” level. It makes NO SENSE whatsoever. Our founders would NEVER, EVER have approved of abortion nor would they want that understood to be a "right" to murder a small human being.

36 posted on 11/19/2007 6:13:54 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: drpix

YOu missed his point.

His point was that SLAVERY was made ILLEGAL and NOT at the STATE level. Abortion needs to be ILLEGAL and NOT at the STATE level.


37 posted on 11/19/2007 6:15:24 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh
Outlawing abortion fits in with our COnstition just as making slavery ILLEGAL fits in to our Constitution.

It took an amendment to the Constitution to end slavery. A similar amendment to end abortion would never make it throught the amendment process. It would only take 13 states to block it, and the Democrats control a whole lot more legislatures than that.

38 posted on 11/19/2007 6:16:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: nmh

I think you answered my question. Your position has no basis in logic. Fred is right on this. Huckabee is wrong.


39 posted on 11/19/2007 6:16:12 AM PST by Rider on the Rain
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To: Rider on the Rain

“Is there a federal law that says murder is illegal? I don’t think there is, and if abortion is murder, as many believe, why must there be a federal law against just that kind of murder?”

Yes, murder is illegal and it’s is NOT left up to the “states”. Whether an ADULT or a BABY or the unborn about to be born are MUREDERED, this should be ILLEGAL for ANY AGE of the human being. I tend to like consistency.


40 posted on 11/19/2007 6:17:29 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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