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To: nmh

Murder is wrong in every state, theft in all its varieties—robbery, burglary, fraud. . .—is wrong in every state, so too assault, rape, vandalism, . . .
yet all of these are defined and prosecuted by state laws, save as they affect interstate commerce or the functioning of the Federal goverement (e.g. murder of Federal officials). Divorce is a moral matter, yet the grounds for divorce (or, alas, policies permitting groundless divorces) are a matter of state law.

It is precisely because it is a moral issue, like murder, theft, the definition of marriage, and the like, that abortion policy is properly decided by the level of government closest to the people affected, as has always been done in the United States from the days when Virginia’s laws had a decidedly Anglican character, and Massachusetts’ laws a Calvinist flavor.

Huckabee is wrong—his logic would create a unitary state, where all laws are Federal, and the states become mere provinces—all political decisions are fundamentally moral decisions, as the fundamental question of politics—how ought we order our society—is subordinate to the fundamental question of morality—how ought we live our lives.


43 posted on 11/19/2007 6:18:14 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
“Huckabee is wrong—his logic would create a unitary state, where all laws are Federal, and the states become mere provinces—all political decisions are fundamentally moral decisions, as the fundamental question of politics—how ought we order our society—is subordinate to the fundamental question of morality—how ought we live our lives.”

Abortion is MURDER of a small person.

The unalienable right to life needs to be recognized in ALL states and NOT the arbitrary manner you suggest through states. Life is too important to be left up to illogical folks like you that are abortion, murder supporters.

46 posted on 11/19/2007 6:22:24 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: The_Reader_David
Huckabee is wrong—his logic would create a unitary state, where all laws are Federal, and the states become mere provinces

This is hyperbole, firstly, and secondly it is bad legal argument.

Are the unborn persons or are they not?

If they are not, then abortion on demand should be freely available.

If they are persons, then they are protected from being deprived of their lives on a federal basis by the 14th Amendment.

49 posted on 11/19/2007 6:23:28 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: The_Reader_David

“Huckabee is wrong—his logic would create a unitary state, where all laws are Federal, and the states become mere provinces—all political decisions are fundamentally moral decisions, as the fundamental question of politics—how ought we order our society—is subordinate to the fundamental question of morality—how ought we live our lives.”

Hurrah to this post. Federalizing this law will lead to federalization of the next thing, and then the next thing. Like the idea of a federal driver’s liscense? Huck’s idea would bring THAT one step closer by empowering the feds to jump further into our lives.


55 posted on 11/19/2007 6:31:46 AM PST by the tongue
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