Posted on 11/19/2007 9:59:51 AM PST by reaganaut1
The strategy sounds almost illogical: Detectives in New Jersey are being urged to build criminal cases with as few witnesses as possible. Or with none at all.
In cities struggling with gang-related crimes, like Trenton and Newark, detectives said that even on the infrequent occasions when they find civilian witnesses who might be willing to testify, investigators are wary about pressuring them to appear in court. That reluctance is based on a fear that the authorities might not be able to protect witnesses from retaliation.
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No one much disputes that the strategy amounts to something of a retreat for law enforcement in New Jersey.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Ding, Ding, Ding ... We have a Winner!
I don't know if much of the current generation of urban yoots is redeemable. And yet, they will blame all of us rural folks for our gun laws.
I have an idea how to protect the witnesses. Give them a free pistol course, a couple of hours on the range, not including the few hours learning about firearms, and give them a nice discount on a new .45.
When society can no longer protect the judicial process (including the safety of witnesses and judges), then
a ) we have lost our rights; and
b ) our civilization is going to dissolve into a bunch of dog packs
That doesn't shock me at all. Detectives lie to witnesses & tell them they will protect them when they can't. The state can't do it but if it can become a federal case the feds can protect them. Why would a person want to be the target of a gang? I am all for law & order but not if I am going to get killed over it or worse my family killed.
The judicial system is truly broken. I don’t see how it will be fixed. My recommendation would involve very high levels of execution. (I’m serious.) But I have no expectation that this will be considered.
Once you become a gang member you are a target for the bounty hunters.
I kiko'ed 10 copies, signed and dated them, and turned them in in person into the local precinct, and they IMMEDIATELY knew who I was talking about. This was the SF precinct where in 1972 some black muzzies shotgunned some cops, OK?
They arrested the guy at 6 am the next morning and called me on my cell --strangely, I answered. They said they could only hold him a little while, and could I come down there for an ID?
I sped down there and ID'ed him --the cops brought him out in the daylight sun next to the precinct, brought me around the corner, pointed to him and said, "this him...?" The guy looks right at me --this guy is black muslim banger, OK?
I look straight back and go, "YEP!"
Three days later the guy nearly kills me for it. He pointed a gun in my face, showed me the biz card of some black mosque and told me his homies were going to kill me. He was very, very clear about it.
This was just a couple days before the muzzies in Oakland killed that reporter OK? About 6 months ago.
Lemme tell you, when the cops conduct an ID, it is NOT like they have in the movies, OK?
They did virtually NOTHING to prevent this guy from knowing 'zactly who I was.
If this guy knows you, then you know him.
Nuff said.
L
Personally, I think you take your idea and get about 3 more layers up. If the mayors of these crime ridden cities want to get serious about keeping their citizens safe, they offer free hand gun self defense training to anyone that wants it; they allow those that complete the classes easy access to a concealed carry permit and they ENCOURAGE them to buy a suitable gun. When one of these students kills some punk while committing a crime, they WALK! Their names are not given to the press and they WALK. You need to let your police department do its job too but if they can’t (and they obviously can’t) protect the people, We The People have a right to self defense.
I like creative problem solving.
“The District Attorney’s Office is not equipped to protect witnesses in any situation. There aren’t any local witness protection programs, or anything of that nature. The fact is people are to some extent on their own, in terms of their protection.”—Michael Nifong, Durham DA, Sept. 2006
Don’t move to Durham . . .
End of story.
L
That’s all a very good idea, with the .45 ... but it won’t help much when the ‘bangers decide to treat you to Molotov Cocktails ad Oh-Dark-Thirty.
This is a great article that demonstrates exactly why New Jersey is as screwed up as it is.
There’s the problem, right there. In many cities, urban culture is terminally ill.
Posse Comitatus should be suspended and these domestic terrorists that are in these inner city gangs should be put down like the dogs they are.
It is immorral that we allow thousands of decent people to be held hostage by a few handfuls of animals.
Contrary to conventional wisdom, the primary purpose of a "law enforcement officer" is not upholding the safety and protection of the general public. The traditional county sherriff, for example, wasn't tasked with the responsibility of walking a beat, patrolling neighborhoods, etc.
The primary purpose of a "law enforcement officer" is the protection of accused criminals -- to ensure that they are tried in a court of law for their crimes instead of being "brought to justice" by a posse of armed citizens.
Going back to the example of the old county sherriff . . . there was no need for the sherriff to patrol neighborhoods or do anything to protect law-abiding citizens in those days -- BECAUSE THE CITIZENS WERE "ARMED AND DANGEROUS" IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.
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