Posted on 11/19/2007 2:13:49 PM PST by icwhatudo
We all get "those" emails from time to time-the ones making claims that are meant to be passed on. We've learned to check things on sites like snopes.com to make sure what we pass is true. When it comes to the movie The Golden Compass, whats going around is...true
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Filed under “ we’ll pass”.
Some will see it and some will not.
To each their own.
so blatant. it will be interesting to see how many irresponsibly go to see this movie with their children that call themselves Christian.
My thoughts exactly. If your faith is so weak that a mere movie can threaten it... you’ve got other issues.
My ex-wife calls herself a Christian.
'nuff said...
Blatant? Not really. He subtly weaves a story of deciept and lies. The villians from the first book are out to take on God. You don’t find out the are the good guys (from his point of view) until the end of the third book. Until that time the “heroes” are twisted every which way and the reader doesn’t know for sure that this isn’t another big lie.
Don't care to know either.
“The Name of the Rose” is a novel written by athiest Umberto Eco. Some find some of it’s themes anti-Christian. Others, including myself, respect how Eco did very good research into the lives of monks living in the middle ages. His weaving of mystery (the movie “se7en” was based on this book), history and philosophy was masterful. His intent was not to mock or rip Christianity, but simply to tell a story.
That being said, Pullman’s books are by intent Anti-Christian. It isn’t that there are themes that some might find offensive, it’s that the series was written to offend those that follow Christ. That is his intent. That is why I will not see it.
I went to the web site and wasn’t particularly impressed with the concept they were trying to sell there.
When they propose you (children) have to link up with the sprite (forget if this is the right word for it or not) of your choice, they lost my support.
It’s one thing to have a character that kids admire in a movie. It’s another to sell them on the idea that they can’t fluorish/survive without that entity.
I hope everyone here at FR has learn more damage can be done to a film you disapprove of by not showing up for it than to become some news magazines “kook of the week” at a theater protest.
Just quietly kill it with your word of mouth, make sure you watch for the name Deborah Forte the producer( because they are the ones that have financially backed it) and not buy or rent her stuff again.
At some point hollywood will learn or the investment groups behind them that creating hostile entertainment against Christians is a losing business. These people only understand box office. DONT publically protest it and start a buzz about the film.
“If your faith is so weak that a mere movie can threaten it... you’ve got other issues.”
The same can not be said for impressionable children.
Exactly. Belief that is never tested with a contrary view isn’t worth much.
how can an atheist kill something he doesn’t believe exists in the first place?
“It’s another to sell them on the idea that they can’t fluorish/survive without that entity.”
Isn’t that what all religions do ?
His intent is to kill the delusion that there is a God, not the entity.
so blatant. it will be interesting to see how many irresponsibly go to see this movie with their children that call themselves Christian.”
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“Abstain from all appearance of evil.”
“Think on those things which are good, pure...”
This Christian isn’t paying good money to further
the interests of God-hating producers and authors.
bump
It's what a responsible parent would do...
I’m guessing you’re a little fuzzy on the values being taught by Hollywood vs Religion these days.
If I may spam some verses from a random internet google that I did on the subject of Christian entertainment:
Let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit (2 Corinthians 7:1).
James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is-—his good, pleasing and perfect will (Romans 12:2).
Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you (2 Corinthians 6:17).
Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ (Philippians 3:19-20).
Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul (1 Peter 2:11).
The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever (1 John 2:17).
Would you use that same apporach for an S&M porn movie?
“Our kids are big LOTR and Narnia fans so hopefully we can avoid
the previews.”
The previews/trailers for “The Golden Compass” might be a good
“teachable moment”.
From what little I’ve seen, it looks like “The Golden Compass” is
just work of a faker (director) hoping to hitch his DERIVATIVE
work to the tail of Narnia.
And hoping that will get them plenty of $$$ at the box office.
The message of the books is that God is actually a petty, jealous Power who is deliberately stunting the potential of Man, so that he can remain an uber-dictator for eternity. The only solution is to rebel against God and kill him, thus freeing the omnipotence of Man to do whatever he wants.
“The same can not be said for impressionable children.”
Then you would also agree that children should not be exposed to any religious belief system, right ? If they are too impressionable to rationally evaluate the ideas in a film, then they should have been kept away from Narnia and other pro-Christian kid’s movies.
“Then don’t take your kids to see it.”
I’m more concerned about it’s impact on children in general. It’s a slickly packaged dose of God-hatred designed for the impressionable.
How old are they? The forces of evil are relentless and all they want is just a little crack to gain a little foothold of doubt and then expand on it. Once the stage is set, a little wider crack might appear.
If I leave my house unlocked, it is unlikely that I'll get ripped off, but it would still be irresponsible for me to do it.
God Bless you and the children God gave you to nurture and protect.
What could? (Hint: Don't say "nothing.")
I was speaking about this Golden Compass movie and Religions that personify a God.
In the Golden Compass, everyone has a spirit animal they can talk to and that accompanies them everywhere.
In religions like Christianity, everyone is also taught that there is an entity that accompanies them everywhere and that they can talk to.
Red herring. Don't go there.
“Then you would also agree that children should not be exposed to any religious belief system, right ? “
No, I do not agree.
I am not neutral, nor will I pretend to be. I am pro Christian and believe that children should be expose to Christ and the Bible from the earliest possible age.
Agreed.
I wonder why any “responsible parent” would fund such a thing. “My kids faith can handle....I’ll use it to educate....” I wonder if these same excuses were used to give money to Al Gore and Michael Moore’s movies. Sure, you probably can handle it and educate about it but why pay for it?
One of the problems today is that everyone is so danged worried about what everyone else is doing that they may not like. Worry about your own kids first.
parents have a duty to teach their kids the right values
“The message of the books is that God is actually a petty, jealous Power who is deliberately stunting the potential of Man, so that he can remain an uber-dictator for eternity. The only solution is to rebel against God and kill him, thus freeing the omnipotence of Man to do whatever he wants.”
That’s pretty accurate. I read all three books just a few years ago.
I take it you don’t think this is an idea worth exploring with your kids ? If they are not exposed to differing opinions, they will never be able to debate their beliefs based on the merits. They will have only dogma to rely on.
So was I.
Ok... don’t go see it then. Your choice.
You mean your values.
That’s called indoctrination, or brain-washing, even if well-intended.
It’s a legitimate question. You can’t unring a bell. Some things aren’t appropriate for children, no matter the well intentioned plans of the adult. Perhaps you disgree, but that’s how I see it.
that would be like exposing kids to soviet propaganda films in order for them to defend capitalism.
I agree. However, you deal with your kids, I'll deal with mine.
Makes Harry Potter look like a saint, eh?
I don’t have a problem with that, but if you’re going to bring up your views on a public forum don’t be surprised if others bring up their views.
Refusing to see it isn't so much about shaky faith as it is not wanting to put dollars into Pullman's pocket. I read the first two books and didn't need to read further to know the road he'd paved (not bothering with good intentions, either).
A friend of mine is in England working on the next Narnia movie. I'd rather contribute to his salary.
being against indoctrination is also a moral value.
Discussion of the movie after seeing it is what a good parent would do. I agree with your outlook completely.
I’ve already told my kids we aren’t see this movie and to not ask me to see it, lol! I told them it is evil and about kids who want to kill God.
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