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MURTHA: "We can't win militarily."
The Washington Times ^ | 11/20/2007 | S.A. Miller

Posted on 11/20/2007 3:57:09 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

“The dim view of U.S. military progress in Iraq and a resolve to force a pullout have been echoed by the two top Democrats on Capitol Hill — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California.”

Duh..Captain Obvious..where ARE you?!


51 posted on 11/20/2007 4:23:10 PM PST by PROCON
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To: Bahbah

I have had it with these traitors! Murtha is disgusting and the words you used to describe him are exactly the way I feel! What is wrong with these people?!!(THE RATS)


52 posted on 11/20/2007 4:24:53 PM PST by Bush gal in LA (Don't tread on the Fred! ''Fred Thompson 2008!'')
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To: Red Badger

i’m just replying to the title and it makes me very happy!

i’m glad that Murtha, Cankles and the rest of the commie crowd have to go through elections here, instead of having our military at their command.


53 posted on 11/20/2007 4:26:18 PM PST by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: Recovering Hermit

Nice dig by Ms. Perino! Ouch!


54 posted on 11/20/2007 4:27:22 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Red Badger

Mark Levin just went ballistic over this. It was a thing of beauty!


55 posted on 11/20/2007 4:28:17 PM PST by JennysCool (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: Bushbacker1

Maybe Blackwater might send him out on patrol with an Iraqi Patrol, that may be more exciting than just allowing the Scum to roam alone.Would love to see the reception the scum would get from Our Marines! I hope and pray a contingent of Our Brave Ex-Marines camp out in his sorry*ss office and declare from the Capital Steps that “ Murtha once may have been a Marine, but now he is a Traitor and a desecration to the Marines and Their Uniform!”


56 posted on 11/20/2007 4:28:45 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Red Badger
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Who am I... and WHY AM I HERE???

ohh, yeah... THE PORK!!!

57 posted on 11/20/2007 4:29:43 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Red Badger

Every time I think that Democrats couldn’t possibly stoop any lower then they have, another one opens his or her mouth and shows me that they can indeed find a way to stoop lower.


58 posted on 11/20/2007 4:29:51 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Red Badger

Why hasnt Murtha been arrested yet???

Why arent the republicans going after this piece of garbage???


59 posted on 11/20/2007 4:31:22 PM PST by homeguard
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To: Red Badger
That Fat Bastard needs to be dragged out of his plush office and treated as the scum treasonous bastard that he is.

His constituency should be punished for repeatedly foisting this "King of Pork" on the rest of the country for their own selfish greed!

60 posted on 11/20/2007 4:34:24 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Red Badger

Damned DemoFool, just implicitly acknowledged that winning is after all, a possibility. >;-)


61 posted on 11/20/2007 4:44:45 PM PST by DGHoodini (The Dems no longer have the humanity to grasp that there are things worth dying for.)
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To: camerakid400

“It’s Baghdad Murtha!”

BWAHAHAHAhahahaah!


62 posted on 11/20/2007 4:47:12 PM PST by DGHoodini (The Dems no longer have the humanity to grasp that there are things worth dying for.)
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To: Red Badger

What’s really, really disgusting about this ****** is that he is on the armed services committee and is the biggest pork guzzler in the country, swilling off the defense budget.

For me, that is the last straw.


63 posted on 11/20/2007 4:48:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: darkwing104

He never was a Marine. Murtha was killed in battle..this pig before us is a deep cover Soviet impostor crook.


64 posted on 11/20/2007 4:50:15 PM PST by DGHoodini (The Dems no longer have the humanity to grasp that there are things worth dying for.)
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To: Red Badger

Good news for America=Bad news for DemonRATS. Hey Murtha! How ‘bout a nice fresh hot cup of SHUT THE UCK FUP!


65 posted on 11/20/2007 4:51:46 PM PST by getarope (Hunter in 2008! We choose our president, NOT the media!)
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To: Red Badger

I will not say personal derogatory things about Rep. Murtha because he is a retired Army Reserve Colonel.

I will question his beliefs and statements.

I will agree with Rep. Murtha on one thing...that we can’t win the war in Iraq. STOP before you attack me, and let me explain.

I’m not actually agreeing with Rep. Murtha as he sees it. What I am saying is that we can’t win the war on the ground in Iraq under the current rules of engagement ROE, that our troops must operate under. Instead of bringing the troops home, I recommend to the President that he “unlease” them.

First actions to take:

(1) Declare that ALL arms must be surrendered immediately by all parties not approved of by the Iraqi government and the US Commander on the ground. Meaning ALL militias would be disarmed - especially Sadr’s.

(2) Only allow uniformed troops (Iraqi and US approved) to keep and bear arms.

(3) Anyone else - no matter who - that is seen bearing or found with arms should be a legitimate target for our military and the Iraqi military. If they see an armed individual not in an approved uniform - they die unless they immediately surrender.

Finally, give the US Military commander on the ground the authority to disarm even Iraqi approved units if he thinks they pose a credible threat to our troops.

By disarming that rabble, and killing those that won’t. We can restore order and win. IMO the current ROE puts our troops at too much risk. Unleash our troops and put them on the offensive instead of being targets on convoys, and we would clean that mess up very quickly.

BTW - Let us stop the illusion that we are liberators - that is a future bonus. Right now we are rightfully occupiers, and should act that way. Stop the illusion of Iraqi sovereignty - the government there exists only at our pleasure.


66 posted on 11/20/2007 5:03:02 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Red Badger

I didn’t realize the Washington Times was link only


67 posted on 11/20/2007 5:13:38 PM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: Red Badger
I have to believe that Iranian President Amadjihad has to be donating to Murtha’s campaign fund.
68 posted on 11/20/2007 5:15:44 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Red Badger

Murtha served in the military.

I never heard an active military person say,

“Weeeee can’t win”

“Weeeeere losing.”

“We must flee like rats.”

“Guys in the military are just government armed hoodlums.”


SO, I have a hard time believing he was really a soldier.

Soldiers don’t WHINE like LITTLE GIRLS.


69 posted on 11/20/2007 5:18:34 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Red Badger
Murtha, the EX-Marine. Ain't too many of those around!
70 posted on 11/20/2007 5:19:48 PM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: DGHoodini

“this pig before us is a deep cover Soviet impostor crook.

You know. Looking at his picture, I could easily say you hit the nail on the head. It makes more sense than any other explanation.


71 posted on 11/20/2007 5:21:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Red Badger
Murtha is a 5th a day man.
72 posted on 11/20/2007 5:21:45 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Sola Veritas

Very, very good plan for peace and re-constitution of Iraq.

Very good.


73 posted on 11/20/2007 5:24:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: AF_Blue

I think Murtha is actually telling the truth here.

The “we” he refers to is Al Queda, with whom he has been shamelessly allied with since the start of the war.

Traitorous bastard should be shot.


74 posted on 11/20/2007 5:24:30 PM PST by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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To: Red Badger
"We can't win militarily." - Murtha

If the U.S. military were full of the likes of Murtha it couldn't even defeat a Girl Scout Troop.

Thankfully it isn't.

75 posted on 11/20/2007 5:25:58 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: Red Badger

He is a disgusting scumbag.


76 posted on 11/20/2007 5:26:23 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Red Badger
Maybe Jack Murtha finally did get that big-bucks payoff that he was salivating over during the ABSCAM sting days. Only it wasn't the fake payoff that was then being offered by undercover feds, but from real Middle East (ROP) money-men.

With every sound he utters, Jack Murtha dishonors our troops. With every sound he utters, Jack Murtha is unfaithful to his constituents and to our country.

What a disgusting pig.

77 posted on 11/20/2007 5:29:30 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Red Badger

Hey Chavez,, I mean, Murtha! Why don’t you just shut up!


78 posted on 11/20/2007 5:31:37 PM PST by freemike
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To: Sola Veritas
I will not say personal derogatory things about Rep. Murtha because he is a retired Army Reserve Colonel.

Benedict Arnold was a general in the Continental Army but that didn't stop George Washington, and the history books, from getting "derogatory" on him.

A traitor who was in a position of trust, especially in a national defense capacity, is MORE deserving of our wrath than a penny-ante code pink traitor. How did you ever come to believe otherwise? It must be by conflating our patriotic defenders with the traitors who wear the uniform as a costume. I think this was a media driven head job on US citizens from back when they were pushing the Kerry presidential run.

79 posted on 11/20/2007 5:35:25 PM PST by Perchant
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To: Red Badger

Go away Murtha.

80 posted on 11/20/2007 5:37:05 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (RINO cleaner - the backbone restorer)
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To: Red Badger

Eh, I’m not gonna bother with it. The Ex-Marine has a big mouth!


81 posted on 11/20/2007 5:43:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Red Badger; Travis McGee; Lurker; wardaddy

This guy is either a traitor to his nation and his brothers in arms past and present or he is mentally ill. Either or he needs to be censored, admonished and voted out of office ASAP during the regular election schedule or a recall election.

For any constituent or peer to support this sorry sad sack of sick sh*t as their representative in congress is telling of that states population and their voters. They are worse than he is if they sit and do nothing to remove him legally from his elected position

He is ill, mentally unfit, insane, facts elude him...........he clearly is delusional and incapable of performing the duties required to honestly and faithfully serve his congressional district.

If I saw this poor excuse for a human spewing this crap on the street I’d put him in protective custody to protect him from harming himself or others.

My opinion........


82 posted on 11/20/2007 5:50:48 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Red Badger

Who is this person?


83 posted on 11/20/2007 5:51:31 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: Red Badger; darkwing104; jveritas
Murtha is obviously not privy to reports from CENTCOM and Petraeus in Iraq......he's just a record skipping.

Red Badger and Darkwing.....Ex- Marine......Yeah!
84 posted on 11/20/2007 5:57:58 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: True Republican Patriot
...Our Brave Ex-Marines...

As I understand it, there are no ex-Marines, with the exception of Murtha. He has stabbed the Marines and our military in the back! He is total feces enclosed scum!!!!

85 posted on 11/20/2007 6:11:05 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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To: Red Badger

What he was really saying is “We can’t win.”


86 posted on 11/20/2007 6:21:09 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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87 posted on 11/20/2007 6:22:43 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Squantos

I wonder if his supposed combat heroism was of the LBJ and John Kerry variety: posed and fabricated, for later political use.


88 posted on 11/20/2007 6:29:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

From his web page........note the “Pennsylvania’s highest honors”.....??

Military Service Awards

Distinguished Service Medal of the United States Marine Corps, upon his retirement from the Marine Corps Reserves for 37 years of distinguished service to his country, 1990.

Distinguished Service Medal, Pennsylvania’s highest honor, 1977.

Meritorious Service Medal, Pennsylvania’s second-highest honor, 1976.

Bronze Star with Combat V, 1966.

Purple Heart, 1966.

Purple Heart, second award, 1966.

Vietnamese Cross of Galantry, 1966.

American Spirit Honor Medal of the Marine Corps Recruit Department, 1952.


89 posted on 11/20/2007 6:35:49 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Red Badger
Murtha knew how many military deaths his words alone caused, he would become on of the:

90 posted on 11/20/2007 6:38:00 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Chode

The only difference between our Congress and Islamic terrorists is their views on pork.


91 posted on 11/20/2007 6:39:42 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Red Badger

Murtha will have to explain to me how the enemy (Al Qaeda) CAN win militarily.

What will they have to show? Will they be able to oust the new government in Iraq? Will they be able to use government labs to procure, develop, and store WMD?


92 posted on 11/20/2007 6:40:07 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: weegee

Love that tag line.........:o)


93 posted on 11/20/2007 6:45:29 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Red Badger

Vietnam left a strain of defeatism in our military and our veterans.


94 posted on 11/20/2007 6:57:03 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: G8 Diplomat
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95 posted on 11/20/2007 7:01:22 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: weegee
Murtha will have to explain to me how the enemy (Al Qaeda) CAN win militarily.

What will they have to show? Will they be able to oust the new government in Iraq? Will they be able to use government labs to procure, develop, and store WMD?

You ask the perfect question. "How will this loss prediction of yours manifest itself, Mr. Murtha?"

96 posted on 11/20/2007 7:12:13 PM PST by Perchant
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To: Bahbah

To call him a shit would be an insult to dung.


97 posted on 11/20/2007 7:32:31 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Red Badger

By his measure Do Nothing Nancy’s congress is an absolute failure.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


98 posted on 11/20/2007 7:36:55 PM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Actually he is living in the ‘60’s with bitterness and hatred and has become a socialist pacifist.


99 posted on 11/20/2007 7:52:25 PM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Red Badger

Murtha

What part of Shut the “FOXTROT UNIFORM CHARLIE KILO” up do you not understans?!!!!

Sorry I offend anyone but Murtha Started IT!!!!!


100 posted on 11/20/2007 7:56:14 PM PST by Cripplehawk
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