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1 posted on 11/21/2007 11:37:42 AM PST by JZelle
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I can see why it was in the garbage..............


3 posted on 11/21/2007 11:46:10 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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I wonder if Debbie (I’ve never seen a piece of wood that won’t look better painted) Travis was doing one of her redecorating shows and tossed that piece out.


7 posted on 11/21/2007 11:50:31 AM PST by Don W (I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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That is an awesome picture. Not a million dollars perhaps, but it’s way better than anything submitted for the Turner prize.


10 posted on 11/21/2007 11:54:36 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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My father in law found a historic painting of Sam Houston in the trash 50 years ago. I don’t think it is worth anywhere close to a million dollars but it is hanging over my fireplace now and we love it.


12 posted on 11/21/2007 11:57:29 AM PST by Ditter
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Well at least it was returned to the rightful owner, and at least the finder did get a reward.

And the thief didn’t get the money.

13 posted on 11/21/2007 11:57:35 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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even though I didn’t understand it, I knew it had power.”...Yes indeed!...Power to the tune of over 1 million dollars


23 posted on 11/21/2007 2:00:31 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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"His early work has similarities to that of famed 20th century muralist Diego Rivera".

One of if not the most notable member in Mexican Communist Party history.

25 posted on 11/21/2007 5:29:49 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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Please post a picture of the work of art;all I see here is a pice of trash.


28 posted on 11/21/2007 6:00:24 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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I’m afraid I would have left it in the garbage.


37 posted on 11/22/2007 8:59:56 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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The Tamayo is actually not a bad piece. (It does kind of look like a Dave Brubeck album cover, though.) I like it better than anything Diego Rivera did, the communist bastard.

But it's a throwback, a monument to a bygone age. Art doesn't look like that anymore.

If I'm honest, I think that visual art may have run its course. Once one takes painting from an act of worship to storytelling to allegory to depiction to impression to abstraction to dreams visualized to paint-on-canvas to blahblahblah, there's really no place left to go. Dada was the Punk Rock of visual art; just as the Sex Pistols were the End of Rock 'n' Roll, so Duchamp and Magritte wrapped it up for Western Civ's deconstruction of cave painting.

And just as "rock" since the Sex Pistols has been nothing but pastiche and dance music, the visual arts after Dada have been little more than styling and profiling. Post-Dada, what did we see? A whole lot of nothing, in my opinion: de Kooning scrawls, Stella boxes, Rothko stripes, and that stupid Jasper Johns flag thing. In other words, a bunch of people jerking off. With nowhere to go post-punk, rock became either pure commercial product or went over to theater (e.g. Hair Metal). With nowhere to go post-Dada, visual artists either went pure commercial (Pop Art) or went over to pure shock theater — dead animals, messy bedrooms, etc. Rock Star, Art Star — there's really not much difference.

I admire the pugnaciously backwards spirit behind artrenwal.com, and I also like some of the works featured there. (I think this work is a fine example of craft painting. It is sentimental, yes, and breaks no new ground, but even so it's a powerful piece, well-executed and beautiful.) However, I fear that today's art "renewal" movement is more nostalgic than truly revanchist. The sort of folks who buy Thomas Kinkade's wet-cobblestone Main-Street fantasy paintings are not doing so out of any intellectual bent towards the culture and values of the past; they just think they're pretty.

(And that's okay: if pretty is what one wants, one should have it. Still, as a reactionary of the Altar-and-Throne school, I can't help but wonder what an artist's brush in the hands or a real hard-ass Right-winger might produce.)

A few more words on Kinkade: I admire Thomas Kinkade as a businessman, but his self-stated goal is to "bring to millions of people an art that they can understand", and I'm not sure that mass appeal is the most important aim when creating a work of art. To my mind, art (of any kind — painting, music, whatever) is an intellectual activity, not an emotional activity; art should proceed from the artist's true self (that is, his reason) and is meant to be understood via reason. ("Art" that can be immediately grasped on an emotional level is called "entertainment".) In other words, I think Art is an intellectual activity, and should be born from and perceived through an act of intellect. Putting on Bach in the background while folding shirts is fine, but one does not truly listen to Bach except by sitting quietly and focusing one's mind upon the music. Bach used as background music isn't really Bach at all. In like manner, a "purty pitcher" may please the eye of the Average Joe, but the Average Joe is cheating himself out of the true esthetic experience if "purtyness" is all he wants out of a painting. Esthetics is a branch of knowledge based upon Reason, not emotion, and as such must be taught to people just as must every other branch of knowledge. To grow up without a proper education in esthetics is to grow up blind to the beauty that lies beneath the surface of art.

(This is why art education from elementary school on up is so important — but don't get me started on that subject.)

Anyway, I don't want to harsh on Kinkade too much. He's skilled, and he sells a lot of paintings, but James McNeill Whistler he ain't. Let's leave it at that.

44 posted on 11/22/2007 9:29:13 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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Looks like some sort of space alien in the upper right quadrant

I seriously doubt I would pay more than $50.00 for this "art"

59 posted on 11/23/2007 11:37:34 AM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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