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To: curiosity

Government force is not necessarily a sign of socialism.

The constitution says that Congress has the power to call up the militia. That is force, and it is not socialism.

The constitution says that Congress can tax. That is force, and it is not socialism.

The constitution says that Congress is responsible to promote the general welfare. They require sewage systems. That is force but it is not socialism. (Although their ownership of the sewage utilities is.)

Socialism is when government owns the means of production, owns all property, and requires adherence to its central planning of every aspect of social life.


67 posted on 11/21/2007 5:53:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: curiosity; Jim Robinson

This thought about property rights has been on my mind all night long.

What exactly is my right to own property?

I know that property rights have suffered serious blows over the last decades as the tax and spend liberals have convinced a vast majority of Americans not to their money as being money as being their property. If it were gold in their pocket, though, I’m sure they see it as their property.

The Kelo decision by the Supreme Court called into question the right of any individual truly to own land. Scotus says that the public realm can take that property from any individual anytime they want for just about any reason. If you think you own that lot at the intersection of 2 highways, think again. A developer, anyone who can make more money on it than you currently are, can claim it through the town council and have it upheld by the courts.

They can take my money, they can take my land, and I’m sure we can find laws that say they can take my house, my car, and the clothes off my back.

Here’s the rule: You really don’t own anything. It all belongs to the state.

That’s what troubles me about John Q Welfare walking into the emergency room and getting health care for which he’ll pay absolutely nothing.

To cover this man’s indigence, the state will come to my house, take my money, and pay this man’s debt. They call it the man’s “right” to emergency health care. What it actually is is testimony that the state can take my property (my money) at whim.

If you don’t own your money, your land, your house, your papers, your car, your dog, your gun, your anything, then who owns it?

The state.

It is far more socialistic for the state to take my property to pay for John Q. Welfare, than it is for the state to require John Q. Welfare to pay his own way.

That is simple logic and it is irrefutable.

Happy Thanksgiving Day to All. Thanks be to God for all His gifts to include our most basic rights: Life, Liberty, and the Right to Own Property.


82 posted on 11/22/2007 4:48:56 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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