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To: SuziQ
SuziQ said: "And you'll be helping them do it by staying home."

What would you have me do? If the Republicans reject all of the pro-gun candidates, then they have decided that my vote is unneeded. If they are not the pro-gun party, then they are not my party.

Perhaps if there is a third party candidate who is pro-gun, I will vote. But it shouldn't be necessary.

What will be accomplished for my gun rights by voting for Julie-Annie? His claim to understand and support the Second Amendment is absolutely unbelievable. Do you believe him?

Arnold is the REPUBLICAN governor of Kalifornia. He recently signed legislation to further infringe the right to keep and bear arms by mandating technology which most manufacturers will probably not comply with, thereby eliminating many handguns from sale in Kalifornia.

In addition, Arnold is supporting practically every stupid liberal proposal to come out of the legislature. He was recently out of the country, I think, touting his tremendous progress on leading the world in limiting greenhouse gases.

Fortunately, I didn't vote for Arnold, even when other Republicans were so concerned that "he can win". We won nothing. We have lost any meaning for being a Republican governor in Kalifornia.

Electing July-Annie or any other gun-grabber to the Presidency will just do the same thing. In four years, you won't be able to tell the difference from our having elected a Demoncrat.

If YOU support anti-gun Republicans, then what do you expect will happen to you? The same is true of supporting Republicans who don't recognize the proper Constitutional limits to the power of the federal government.

If YOU continue voting for such people, then YOU will get the expected result. It's not my doing.

Bush met the standard when he did nothing to advance a renewal of the federal Assault Weapons Ban. He has since appointed Roberts and Alito, which makes me optimistic that there has been progress. His Attorney General put it on record that the Second Amendment is an individual right.

I see no hope that Julie-Annie will do anything near that.

34 posted on 11/22/2007 8:13:02 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: William Tell
If Giuliani is the Republican who received the most votes in the primaries, and is the nominee, I'll be at the polling place to vote for him because I don't want Her Heinous anywhere NEAR the White House. Folks made that mistake back in 1992, and listened to the "hand grenade with a bad haircut" telling us all what was wrong with the Republicans, but never saying what he would DO that would be different from what George H. W. Bush had done. Folks got their knickers in a twist so bad from the negativity spewed by Perot, that they looked at Bill Clinton and thought, well, we're not in a war, so how much worse can it get than it is now, so we can risk voting for a third party.

Well, 8 years of that horn dog and his harridan wife brought us nothing but grief including with the World Trade Center Bombing in 1993, the debacle in Mogadishu, the bombing of the Khobar Towers and then the bombing of the Cole in Yemen. He was a feckless, spineless, individual who put this country in danger. It was during his Presidency, after Mogadishu, that Osama bin Laden made the calculation that he could attack us with impunity. It was unfortunate for al Queda that George W. Bush was sitting in the White House when the attack finally came.

The situation is different in a major way this time. We ARE in a war, and one that is not supported in any way by the harridan. I shudder to think what would happen if SHE were in charge of foreign policy in general and our military in particular. Though Giuliani is NOT my favorite, I actually support Fred Thompson, Giuliani will do a LOT less harm than that woman in every way. I am pro-life and he is pro-abortion, but she is even MORE pro-abortion, and with Rudy, we'd have at least some chance of getting some more strict constructionist judges on the Supremes with Rudy. If that woman is in charge of the next two or three appointments, we WILL lose all the gains we've made in the last few years.

Now some are wedded to the idea that they could NEVER vote for anyone who is NOT pro-life, but I look at it in the Hippocrates manner; first, do no harm. If there is a pro-life candidate running, I WILL vote for that person, but if the choice is between two candidates who are BOTH pro-abortion, I look at the party behind them. I know that the majority of the Republicans are pro-life, and that the Democrats are rabidly pro-abortion. I'll take a pro-abortion Republican over a pro-abortion Democrat ANY day, if those are the only choices I'm given.

Staying home in a snit is NOT a option for me, because, by doing so, I'd only be allowing the pro-abortion party to have the full sweep of power in the government, and that doesn't help babies at all.

35 posted on 11/22/2007 9:11:01 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: William Tell
I voted for Schwartzeneggar and it took only 24 hours after the election for him to turn leftist. And just days for me to realize he didn't campaign for a single Republican before the election.

I won't be screwed again. Giuliani hasn't had a change of heart -or- an intellectual realization that changed his views on various issues. Reagan had an intellectual realization.

I support the 2nd amendment. I don't own right now because to enjoy what I want means driving way north of Antelope Valley close to Mohave. And a few miles away from the 14 FWY. I like very long range shooting. What I want costs >$16K with a rangefinder, wind gauge and a laptop with the program that tells you how far off the target to aim. It works for somebody I knew. 2 people are needed.

36 posted on 11/22/2007 9:22:43 PM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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