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A Globalization Winner Joins in Trade Backlash
Wall Street Journal ^ | 23 November 2007 | DEBORAH SOLOMON and GREG HITT

Posted on 11/23/2007 3:54:23 AM PST by shrinkermd

At a John Deere plant here, bright green tractors bound for Brazil, Russia and China roll off assembly lines. Global demand for tractors is good, and that's been good for Waterloo.

Yet over the last couple of years, workers and voters in this blue-collar manufacturing outpost -- and throughout Iowa -- have grown decidedly downbeat about globalization. Trade has become such a hot subject that Democratic presidential candidates seeking support in Iowa's influential Jan. 3 caucuses are turning into trade skeptics, and the issue is splitting traditionally free-trade Republicans.

Iowa's ambivalence is all the more remarkable because the state is on the whole a big winner from global trade. "Iowa, as much as any other state, is on the plus side of the ledger," says James Leach, a 30-year Republican congressman from Iowa who now runs Harvard University's Institute of Politics. "It would be highly ironic if pro-protectionist candidates prevailed in the Iowa caucuses." Trade wasn't always such a high priority: In the 2004 Iowa caucus, Richard Gephardt, the most outspoken Democrat on the issue, attracted so few votes he subsequently pulled out of the race.

As the 2008 presidential election approaches, anti-trade sentiment is percolating across America. It is particularly strong in places like Ohio, where foreign competition has decimated jobs. The latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll1 conducted earlier this month found that 60% of voters nationwide agreed with the statement that "foreign trade has been bad for the U.S. economy."

...the global economy has been good for the state. Boosted by the ethanol and biofuels craze and surging demand for crops and farm equipment world-wide, Iowa's exports are up 77% over the past four years versus 50% nationally. The state's unemployment rate hovers around 3.7%, below the national 4.6% average.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: globalization; politics; trade
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The political brain is an emotional brain. Reason is absent on this issue and emotion is driving it. A trade war antedated the Great Depression; Smoot-Hauley restricted trade at that time because of wide popular support.

The politicians should know better, but their goal is getting elected. Weep for reason!

1 posted on 11/23/2007 3:54:24 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

I agree with you.


2 posted on 11/23/2007 3:58:39 AM PST by DB
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To: shrinkermd
foreign trade has been bad for the U.S. economy.

Cretinous.

The only form of "bad trade" is where someone sells you something that is bad for you, like Class A drugs or Socialism.

3 posted on 11/23/2007 4:00:10 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: shrinkermd

We hear such super-assinine remarks from the Global Whiners.


4 posted on 11/23/2007 4:02:53 AM PST by RoadTest ("The Lord bringeth the council of the heathen to naught" - Psalm 33, verse 10)
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To: hedgetrimmer; dennisw
Today workers start at $12.01 an hour, about $4 an hour less than the previous entry-level wage.

Keep telling how wages have risen over the last three decades.

5 posted on 11/23/2007 4:31:59 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: shrinkermd
The populists are out in force unfortunately they outnumber us.
6 posted on 11/23/2007 4:33:16 AM PST by jrsmc
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To: raybbr
It's impossible. Because it requires disproving the paleo "logic" that:

A: The entry-level wage has fallen at an individual corporation, therefore
B: wages are falling across all levels at all corporations.

7 posted on 11/23/2007 4:42:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: shrinkermd
Such deals would -- in theory -- boost wages here by increasing wages overseas and removing some of the competitive advantages of doing business in other countries, where environmental standards are less stringent.

Hardly anyone is advocating a trade war. We on this board who oppose these agreements recognize that, given the lack of comaparitive advantages the U.S. has over foreign manufacturing, these agreements tend to shift jobs out of the U.S.

Notice how the WSJ completeley ignores the low wages, un-monitored working conditions and other myriad factors that give places like China an unfair advantage.

Most of us are advocating fair trade.

Republicans, meanwhile, have made the political calculation that most Americans want to see a continuation of open borders because it means cheaper goods and a stronger U.S. economy.

Open borders? Is that what Republican are now officially espousing on their platform?

8 posted on 11/23/2007 4:42:28 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: DB
It is particularly strong in places like Ohio, where foreign competition has decimated jobs.

I disagree (to a point), jobs have been decimated in every city, county and state in America.

We have NAFTA, CAFTA and soon SAFTA, and they are all one way.

9 posted on 11/23/2007 4:46:51 AM PST by chainsaw (Politicians and diapers should be changed often, and for the same reason!)
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To: 1rudeboy
It's impossible. Because it requires disproving the paleo "logic" that: A: The entry-level wage has fallen at an individual corporation, therefore B: wages are falling across all levels at all corporations.

Cute strawman. However, you must be right. Once that entry level worker gets his first raise he will be getting pay parity.

Of course, those of us who know better, recognize that that entry level worker's wages will always stay at a lower level than previous workers.

10 posted on 11/23/2007 4:47:01 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: jrsmc
It happens every election season (not that it's a necessarily bad thing for politicians to play to the fears of their constituents). Problem is, the Republicans (as of now) are fielding what appears to be an extraordinarily weak team: (again, it appears) there is no Reagan in the wings to convince those voters of the virtues of free markets.

That, and the whole immigration debacle, is forcing the Republican candidates into pander-mode earlier than usual.

11 posted on 11/23/2007 4:48:30 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: raybbr
You don't even know what a strawman is. Fact: you took an individual case and applied it to the whole. That is a logical fallacy, and it's not surprising you fail to recognize it.
12 posted on 11/23/2007 4:50:08 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: raybbr

Well...no one is forcing these folks to work at John Deere. And no one is forcing them to live in Waterloo, either.


13 posted on 11/23/2007 4:53:27 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: shrinkermd

The only good union is a dead union.

A dying union is very dangerous. Steel workers union is especially dangerous to America.


14 posted on 11/23/2007 4:56:36 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: 1rudeboy
Fact: you took an individual case and applied it to the whole. That is a logical fallacy, and it's not surprising you fail to recognize it.

Okay. Show me one place in manufacturing where entry level wages are higher now then, say, twenty years ago.

In 1978 I started at U.S. Steel at $7/hr. Taking into account inflation that would translate into a starting wage of $22/hr. Show me a place that has entry level wages that high.

15 posted on 11/23/2007 5:13:37 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Well...no one is forcing these folks to work at John Deere. And no one is forcing them to live in Waterloo, either.

Been listening to Rush?

The point is that the future of America is at stake. These types of jobs used to sustain middle America. Now, capitalists can't look past the next quarter. It doesn't matter to them if we lose our middle class as long as they get their next bonus.

16 posted on 11/23/2007 5:15:45 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr
Here is the place to start.
17 posted on 11/23/2007 5:26:26 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

That premise (Total compensation) is flawed, too. I paid nothing for better health care insurance in 1978 than now. I am paying about half the premium and the company the other half. Thirty years ago they paid it all.


18 posted on 11/23/2007 5:34:03 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr
Back in the early 80s, my step dad bought a medium sized JD tractor with a belly mower and some other implements for his acreage. He always talked about "buying American," and I agreed with him then and mostly still do.
Imagine his surprise when I pointed out that the tractor had Nippon Denso electrics---it was 100 percent made in Japan, including the tires. How can we be expected to buy US made products when good old loyal JD doesn't ?
19 posted on 11/23/2007 5:46:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don’t have a problem with comapanies parting out some manufacturing. It’s the wholesale slaughter of our manufacturing base in the name of coparate bonuses that I despise.


20 posted on 11/23/2007 5:48:06 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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