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To: JimRed
Here is a case of hysteria. My wife, a friend and I just returned from a visit ti some friends about 100km south of Guadalajara. The area around Lake Chapala has a full time expat citizenry of about 20,000 and a winter time population of 65,000. Crime is low, police (both local and federal) were polite and helpful. Border towns are not safe, but to condemn an entire population because of the activities of some is not the conservative way.

Liberals use broad definitions to condemn conservatives, we should not stoop to that level.

We were treated much better entering Mexico through Guadalajara than we were treated coming back through Atlanta. The most dangerous part of our trip was driving in the mountains trying to keep up with others. Speed limits there were actually low limits (I think).

We are going back permanently next year. Great climate, low prices and some of the friendliest people we have met. The Mexicans in Mexico are not the Wal-Mart variety we see up here.

18 posted on 11/23/2007 11:14:32 AM PST by bibarnes (My mamma was a human, my poppa was a human therefore I am a human)
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To: bibarnes
...to condemn an entire population because of the activities of some is not the conservative way.

Point taken, but the only way to stop it is with ACTION, preferably that which stings the Mexican elites who look the other way from the atrocities.

19 posted on 11/23/2007 11:33:48 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: bibarnes
“We are going back permanently next year. Great climate, low prices and some of the friendliest people we have met. The Mexicans in Mexico are not the Wal-Mart variety we see up here.”

While I agree generally with what you say, you shouldn’t be surprised if kidnapping and such also come to Chapala soon. Mexico was once as you describe everywhere. Fairly safe. The war on drugs has changed all that, It has made organized crime the most powerful force in the country, and it is just a matter of time before the gangsters discover how profitable it can be to kidnap expats. I have been to Lake Chapala, San Miguel de Allende, Curenavaca and a few other favorites of expats. Sad to say, but the good old days may be over for these areas.

20 posted on 11/23/2007 11:39:48 AM PST by monday
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To: bibarnes

“The Mexicans in Mexico are not the Wal-Mart variety we see up here.”

That seems to be the story I am seeing. A good friend of mine is a first generation American from Mexico. His Mexican family members are business owners and very solid people...but they live 500 miles south of the border. His other family members who live on the border are all the trashy types; think Aztlan and hating whites/blacks and America.


21 posted on 11/23/2007 11:47:05 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: bibarnes
The Mexicans in Mexico are not the Wal-Mart variety we see up here.

I/ve been pretty impressed with the Wal-Mart variety here in South Carolina. They seem like hard working family people, for the most.

23 posted on 11/23/2007 11:59:56 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: bibarnes

I live in San Diego around 18 miles north of the largest border crossing in the world, San Diego - Tijuana (Baja)
This article is just a drop in the bucket of what goes on every day. The beheadings, raping and robberty of tourists by police, kidnappings, murder. This is an everyday thing for years.

A person can put a good spin on this, but you have to live in a large city sharing the border with Tijuana also a large city with over 1 million people to understand what is going on with the above problems along with the drug cartels (mafia).

We face the real world here everyday.


28 posted on 11/23/2007 1:22:30 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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