Skip to comments.Group Names Naughty, Nice List Of Stores [no 'Christmas']
Posted on 11/24/2007 8:03:10 AM PST by Gondring
POSTED: 2:26 pm EST November 21, 2007
LYNCHBURG, Va. -- A Christian advocacy group has some advice for Christians as they prepare to do their Christmas shopping: Don't shop at stores that censor the word "Christmas."
As part of its Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign, Liberty Counsel has released its fifth annual "Naughty and Nice" list of stores seeking to attract gift buyers.
The "Naughty List" names stores that make no mention of Christmas in their advertising, vaguely observing the "season" or "holiday" instead. The list includes Gap, Kohl's, Bloomingdale's and Marshalls, to name a few.
The "Nice List" consists of stores that still name the reason for the season. Some stores on that list include Macy's, Wal-Mart, Target and Toys R Us.
Both can be viewed on Liberty Counsel's Web site.
Liberty Counsel's Steve Crampton said stores have the right to advertise any way they want, but Christians have the right to shop at stores that recognize their holiday.
'Naughty or Nice' List
I was just at a Christmas Fair at alma mater, a Catholic high school. One of the ladies selling goods wore a button that said “It’s OK to say Merry Christmas to me.” I like that.
Good one! :-)
I went to the stores yesterday. If what I saw is any indication, this is going to be a very lean Christmas for the retailers. No crowds at Walmart, Staples, or Home Depot. Bass Pro Shops had the biggest crowds, but even they were not a whole lot busier than normal.
Even the street traffic seemed light by comparison to prior years.
That’s right Kohl’s is only providing kosher advertising to our country’s Jews, not the Christians....please people, what are you thinking. They’re PR department is trying to keep all our Muslim, Catholic, Christian, and Atheists away!/s
As a side I as a general rule do not even like mingling with the masses at Wal-Mart, Home Depot or Sears - forget it, takes all the fun out of shopping for me.
Yeah...Hobby Lobby is on the list!
>> LYNCHBURG, Va. — A Christian advocacy group has some advice for Christians as they prepare to do their Christmas shopping: Don’t shop at stores that censor the word “Christmas.”
The “Naughty List” names stores that make no mention of Christmas in their advertising, vaguely observing the “season” or “holiday” instead. The list includes Gap, Kohl’s, Bloomingdale’s and Marshalls, to name a few. <<
Hopefully there is more to this. From the story you don’t see any evidence of censorship.
Best Buy mentions ‘Christmas delivery’ and sells a Christmas gift card.
If they honor that fictitious Commy holiday I dont want to go near the place.
But if Kohls doesn’t follow through, get a message to this website!
I think that Target should be on the Naughty List because they will NOT allow the Salvation Army Bell Ringers to be at their stores. They won’t see my feet in their store, that’s for sure.
Down in Baton Rouge there "used" to be a store called Goudchaux's, run by a family of devout Jews (the Sternbergs). They had THE BIGGEST Christmas spread of any store in the area. (The "used to be" part happened after they tried to grow outside their expertise, and spread branches in other states).
As an aside, Kohl’s is not owned and operated by the Kohl family. I’m pretty sure that they were bought out in the early 70s and transformed from mostly a grocer to a department store chain shortly thereafter. Herb Kohl might have stayed on for a few years but he hasn’t been a part of that company for years.
Thanks for the reminder. Even though I am a Catholic, I still like the Salvation Army.
CVS actually had real CHRISTMAS carols like”Joy to the World” playing and the roof did NOT cave in!!!!Who knew?
I agree. Why would I want to go out in the cold, waste money on gas, just to be surrounded by the stressed-out masses in the stores?
ALL my Christmas shopping is done online. Shipping is usually free and I avoid paying MA sales tax. Not to mention I can comparison shop in minutes to find good deals.
Christmas shopping or any other shopping in stores makes no sense to me.
Plus you do not have to get dressed!!!!:-)
I would expect Kohl to be a German name. There used to be a chain of Kohl’s supermarkets in Wisconsin, and I assumed they were of the same origin as the Kohl that subsequently (my impression) got into the department store business, but never heard anyone in Wisconsin mention Kohl as being Jewish.
The media will try to talk down Christmas sales this year as they did in recent years because the badly want and need a failing economy. This is expected but unless you live 200 miles from a major shopping area I cannot see how your area could be so different then all the others who reported such large crowds, crowds that were spending money and not just looking.
Expect sales to slow after the monster day on Black Friday, as they do every year and then catch fire again the last 4-5 days before Christmas. This years longer shopping season will play well for the retailers. Don’t worry though, they will surely find some bad news to report about the season. If they cannot find any they will simply manufacture it and report it under the guise of an opinion, but of course not in an Op-Ed column but as news.
I’m in Orlando. Our news reports produced the obligatory “Crowds Throng Malls on Black Friday” articles, but I was there, and they weren’t thronging where I was.
I suspect that articles were written a couple of months ago.
I will be very interested to see if the numbers measure up to the hype. Possibly, the shoppers simply did not feel compelled to shop early this year.
Thankfully that scam seems to have died a most-needed death. They are not even pushing at the schools this year here in Oregon.
Down here in Boca, we ate at the Cheesecake Factory per "family visit tradition" on their day of departure. The Town Center Mall parking lot was overflowing into the restaurant parking which isn't exactly nearby.
Packed would be an understatement. Did my shopping on-line personally...
Hobby Lobby is an openly Christian operation. They are not even open on Sunday’s in order for their employees to spend time with their familes and worship at church.
That is what the signs on the stores state.
Likewise, I'm entering Coke Rewards points and I see that they have free Holiday screensavers. One has Santa and a tree and H.H. Another has a December calendar page with holly leaves on Christmas Day, but says H.H.
A generic greeting on a card is one thing, but, HELLO, if you're making something specifically for Christmas, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MENTION IT!!
My wife’s store (Wal-Mart) had a huge day and was up double digits from last year.
I was in Wally World this morning and they were playing Christmas carols.
Perhaps that may explain it although I'm not sure why. I shop the Internet only while my wife can't find the button to turn the computer on. She is a huge fan of 4:00 AM shopping on Black Friday and was telling me it was mobbed, really mobbed and the lines were unreal at the check out stations. This is in NJ, the shopping mall capital of the world and the most densely populated State in the nation. As I said, when you couple what my wife experienced and what the liberal news media reported, I have to say your experience was the exception. Perhaps warm weather doesn't translate well into Christmas shopping.
Chick Fillet as well.
Wait, wait, wait. I’m confused. I thought we didn’t like the commercial aspect of Christmas, and I often hear complaints that it is “too commercialized.” So why do we care if retailers don’t link shopping, shopping, shopping with Christmas? Just cook up a batch of fruit cakes to send to friends and family. ;)
I was told last night that they are selling music CDs in the store and $2 of the prices goes to the Salvation Army.
I can’t confirm this since like you I will not go in there
Are we sure about Macy’s? They light something they call the ‘Great Tree’ every year around this time. It looks just like a Christmas tree to me.
This brings up a question...Do they count if played before Halloween? ;-)
As much as I personally dislike Wal-mart, and how they treat their employees, I have noticed that they now say “Merry Christmas”. I commented on this, and was told the store relaxed their rules, and allow this. Perhaps it’s just the one, but as Wal-mart acts a lot like the Borg, I think the corporate policy changed this year.
You had me 'til that last line, pardner! ;-)
Although there should be nothing wrong with advertising Christmas, neither should "Happy Holidays" be condemned, IMHO. I still say "Merry Christmas," and I do see the point about it bringing cultural unity, but if I have to see the communist festival of a violent terrorist, Kwanzaa, mentioned too, then skip the greeting specifics!
"We Jews believe it was Santa Claus that killed Jesus Christ." -- Richard "Kinky" Friedman
I hope you’re right. I’m just concerned that it may be less than stellar.
Huh. Wonder where Victoria’s Secret resides on the naughty-nice continuum...
Naughty and Nice, of course, but in seriousness, they aren't listed. Their sister store, "Bath and Body Works," gets a "Nice" rating on this list (although they misspelled the name).
Sears is showing up on this site’s “Naughty” list. I was just at Sears. All the entrances have big “Merry Christmas” signs by the door.
It looks to me like Sears IS openly celebrating Christmas.
It’s silly time again.
I (for one) don't. The only thing I want to hear out of the retailer's mouth is, "Can I help you find something?"
The mass commercialization of religious holidays is something that Christians will someday really come to regret someday, IMO. Our family has cut back drastically on the "stuff & shopping" aspect, and frankly I think we are a lot better off. I don't need Wal*Mart to wish me a "Merry Christmas", as it has no meaning.
The Good News is not that there is sale on wide-screen TVs.
The “War on Christmas” folks are just ITCHING to find something or someone to offend them.
I guess one of us could call! LOL!
Agreed. Notice how they now sell buttons and merchandise so that they can make money from all the fuss?
More than a little self-aggrandizement being done in the name of the Lord.
Bump. I notice that Macys is on the good list, but out here in WA, they don’t say anything. Just have stars etc, like their big fat commie red star. It is the least Christmas store of them all to me, sick of shopping there. The employees also are on strike I think, and after talking to an employee there, sounded like they have the worst morale in the mall.