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To: fallingwater

OK, It’s religious belief at election time again? I didn’t realise that Christianity was our state religion? Who cares what the candidate believes in or how he worships God. He can be an agnostic, so long as he gives his heart to the protection and welfare of the country. So he belongs to a different branch of Christianity, so what? The SOS happened when JFK ran, and Alfred Smith too. Remember the fear that the Pope was going to have control over the USA through a Catholic President? If it got down to Romney and Lieberman on the same ticket I’d vote for them. It’ll still be better than what will be on the opposing side. Lets cut the crap, this is politics not religion. We should be concerned about the economical and domestic well being of the USA, not the beliefs of any particular religious group. I’m not leaning towards Romney as a candidate, but at the same time, I’m not going to hold his religious beliefs against him nor any one else’s.


11 posted on 11/25/2007 7:28:47 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Kennedys, Bushes, Clintons,. had enough yet, or do you want more of them?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
I had my earlier post removed because the link in it went to a commercial site.
 
Who cares what the candidate believes in or how he worships God.
 
Apostle Sidney Rigdon, General Conference, April 5, 1844

“A man is not an honorable man if he is not above all law, and above government.... The law of God is far more righteous than the laws of the land; the laws of God are far above the laws of the land. The Kingdom of God does not interfere with the laws of the land, but keeps itself by its own laws.”

-    Times and Seasons, v. 5, May 1, 1844, p. 524, also printed with punctuation changes in History of the Church, v. 5, p. 292

 
“...the practice of Church officials making suggestions to public administrators and lawmakers [since the Church’s early days in Missouri and Illinois] has never died... In the legislative area, relations between Church officials and law makers are still very direct. Some are out-in-the-open for the public to see; others are behind the scenes. Communiques to members of Congress are periodically sent by the First Presidency. Two famous ones were the 1946 admonition to the Utah Congressional delegation to oppose a peacetime draft and the 1965 letter to all Mormons in Congress to resist the repeal of ‘right-to-work’ laws.”

-    J.D. Williams, “Separation of Church and State in Mormon Theory and Practice,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, v.1, Summer 1966, p. 47

 
“I think that the Prophet Joseph Smith was right about the Church saving the Constitution. I believe every word of it. But I just don’t know how the Lord will bring this about. Will He use good priesthood brethren in high places in the military and government to give direction and counsel to our present leaders? Or will He give the prophet a revelation for us to move ahead and take command in some sense? It’s just hard to say when you don’t know what the Lord’s got up His sleeve. But I’m convinced that we are going to play a role like we’ve never before played in the shaping up of things in the world.
“I think that doors have already been opened and we’ve been the men the Lord has selected to walk through those doors... You put together the political, military, and ecclesiastical into a group of men and you’ve got super-human leaders.”

-    Interview with an anonymous informant, Department of Defense, 1983, as quoted in The Mormon Corporate Empire, by John Heinerman and Anson Shupe, 1985, p. 178

 
“You will see the constitution of the United States almost destroyed. It will hang like a thread.... A terrible revolution will take place in the land of America.... [T]he land will be left without a Supreme Government,... [Mormonism] will have gathered strength, sending out Elders to gather the honest in heart... to stand by the Constitution of the United States.... In these days... God will set up a Kingdom, never to be thrown down.... [T]he whole of America will be made the Zion of God.”

  Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., May 6, 1843, in Roberts, Journal of John J. Roberts,

19 posted on 11/25/2007 8:32:16 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I can understand your feelings and beliefs, but your statements fly in the face of our founding father’s own words and intent.


28 posted on 11/25/2007 11:15:59 AM PST by TheBattman (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Lets cut the crap, this is politics not religion.

If someone's religion does NOT affect their politics; then they HAVE no religion!

62 posted on 11/26/2007 5:19:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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