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Law Would Punish Cities That Shield Illegal Immigrants ( Sanctuary cities )
The Tampa Tribune ^ | Sep 9, 2007 | BILLY HOUSE

Posted on 11/25/2007 6:31:58 PM PST by george76

WASHINGTON - A Tampa Bay area congresswoman wants to deny some federal funding to localities that have what she describes as "sanctuary" policies for illegal immigrants.

Under a bill that Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite will introduce this week, states and localities with policies that ban cooperation with federal officials in apprehending or removing undocumented immigrants from the country would lose federal funding that helps them pay for jailing noncitizens who commit crimes.

The Brooksville Republican says she continues to explore the idea of revoking other federal payments. She wrote Thursday to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff asking what added authority, if any, he needs to compel localities to better cooperate with federal authorities in enforcing immigration laws.

"Sanctuary cities are an insult to law-abiding citizens," Brown-Waite said during a hearing Wednesday in which she pressed Chertoff about cutting federal aid to these cities.

New Haven, Conn., is such a city. It has a a general order to "ignore" federal immigration and customs warrants...

Under Brown-Waite's bill - which also would seek to make illegal immigration a felony - a state or municipality could be targeted if it has in place "a statute, policy or practice" that prevents law enforcement from cooperating with federal officials regarding illegal immigrants apprehended "in the course of routine duties."

Funding revocation would kick in if those policies continue six months after Brown-Waite's bill became law.

(Excerpt) Read more at tbo.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; sanctuary; sanctuarycities; sanctuarynation
Anything lately ?
1 posted on 11/25/2007 6:32:00 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

why wait 6 months?


2 posted on 11/25/2007 6:33:54 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Right. It can’t be retro-active but it can begin the same day as passed for current violations. Give them 30 days to become law abiding cities for past indiscretions.


3 posted on 11/25/2007 6:35:58 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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a sovereign nation or a sanctuary nation?

michelle

4 posted on 11/25/2007 6:42:10 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

But “I’m not aware of any city - although I may be wrong - that actually interferes with our ability to enforce the law,” Chertoff said.


5 posted on 11/25/2007 6:43:35 PM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: RKV
"Sanctuary cities" should definitely have their federal funding removed.

now

6 posted on 11/25/2007 6:45:02 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
The House passed such a measure. I think it died in the Senate. We can either be a Sovereignty Nation or a Sanctuary Nation. Facilitating and abetting illegal immigration is at odds with American respect for the rule of law and is also an assault upon our national sovereignty. Local communities that refuse to enforce federal laws definitely should have their federal funding eliminated.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 11/25/2007 6:45:03 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Haddit; SunkenCiv
An August 14, 2006 report produced by the Congressional Research Service listed 31 cities and counties that have “don’t ask, don’t tell” sanctuary policies in place. They are:
8 posted on 11/25/2007 6:48:12 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Haddit
Meet Chertoff
9 posted on 11/25/2007 6:51:14 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: All

Wasn’t this issue covered in the imigration act of 1994 regarding sanctuary cities? If so, wouldn’t federal funding already have grounds for immediate revocation?

(This was a subject covered a few months ago on the Victoria Taft radio show in Portland when the city decided to take tax revenue to build a shelter for illegals to gather in order to find work.)


10 posted on 11/25/2007 6:53:56 PM PST by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: george76

If we had a just world, the mayors and council members who voted for those laws would be charged with treason and hung.


11 posted on 11/25/2007 7:02:02 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: george76

Did you notice how many of them are college towns? Austin, Madison, Fairbanks, the insufferable Cambridge, etc.


12 posted on 11/25/2007 7:08:58 PM PST by freespirited (I'm voting for the GOP nominee.)
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To: RKV

The feds should cut their federal money to these cities.


13 posted on 11/25/2007 7:10:33 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Better to just enforce the law already on the books. UN Code, Title 8, Section 1324
(a) Criminal penalties (1) (A) Any person who—

[...]

(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation; [...]

(B) A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs— [list of fines and terms of imprisonment up tp 20 years, per alien]

Arrest each person voting for a sanctuary measure and put him on trial with charges that would likely put him away for life, and you will see the end of the sanctuary movement
14 posted on 11/25/2007 7:11:20 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

typo above: US Code, not UN Code


15 posted on 11/25/2007 7:12:13 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: george76

How about a sanctuary State, like ours? The attitude of the state government is to to do nothing at all to harm illegals and everything they can to aid them, including granting these law-breakers drivers licenses and many other bennies. This lax attitude has spread to county and city governments and we see no hope they will change. We just ran a close election with three candidates against illegal immigration and three lukewarm and non-committal about it. The lukewarmers all won with major $$$ help of the building trades and Chamber of Commerce. It’s discouraging at best.


16 posted on 11/25/2007 7:25:51 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: george76

>>WASHINGTON - A Tampa Bay area congresswoman wants to deny some federal funding to localities that have what she describes as “sanctuary” policies for illegal immigrants.<<

This would be interesting - 8 of the 10 largest cities are “sanctuaries” with all 8 having Democratic majorities.


17 posted on 11/25/2007 7:27:15 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Paulus Invictus

“The lukewarmers all won with major $$$ help of the building trades and Chamber of Commerce. It’s discouraging at best.”

The Chamber of Commerce is worse than the friggin Nazi’s!!


18 posted on 11/25/2007 7:27:42 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: gondramB

And some wonder why the DUmmies are in favor of illegals voting, getting driver’s licenses, and...

8 of the 10 largest cities are “sanctuaries” with all 8 having Democratic majorities.


19 posted on 11/25/2007 7:39:31 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: freespirited

Amazing.

8-)


20 posted on 11/25/2007 7:40:20 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Paulus Invictus

Cut federal funding to any state that is another sanctuary, too.


21 posted on 11/25/2007 7:41:23 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks george76.


22 posted on 11/25/2007 8:00:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: george76
Regardless of the 18 posts to date, a congress person's good intentions, popular demand, or reasonablness; this is simply more proof that adding new laws to old ones does not fix anything...Unless there is some williness, by the state, to enforce them.

Go ahead, pass a law, get a favorable vote on your initiative...then watch it die on the vine because the state won't enforce and the courts won't sustain.

Democracy/Republican government still needs some working on.

23 posted on 11/25/2007 8:34:10 PM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice)
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To: george76

This is DOA, thanks to the Hispanic Caucus, which will no doubt block any funding for our troops, or police, or starving children in order to keep the reverse-underground railroad going.


24 posted on 11/25/2007 8:37:06 PM PST by montag813
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The Chamber of Commerce is worse than the friggin Nazi’s!!

The CoC seriously should be looked upon as supporting treason. All they spend their money on these days is stopping enforcement of illegal immigration, and stopping any criticism or actions against unsafe Chinese imports.

25 posted on 11/25/2007 8:40:46 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

“The CoC seriously should be looked upon as supporting treason”

BTTT


26 posted on 11/25/2007 8:42:45 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: PapaBear3625
UN Code, Title 8, Section 1324

Easy mistake.

The UN code section cited is the one that states:

(a) Any Member Nation which--

(iii) caught not screwing or attempting to screw, Uncle Sam; or attempts to prevent screwing of Uncle Sam, by any and every means possible, within any 6 month period;[...]

(B) Any Member Nation which violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each such violation— [list of fines and sanctions, up to 1 year loss of voting privileges]

27 posted on 11/25/2007 11:25:39 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: george76

That would be great, but all of our Congressional reps, except one lone RAT, are Pubbies, but neither they nor the leftist RAT will do anything about the invasion of the country, state and city snatchers.


28 posted on 11/26/2007 8:45:17 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: george76
Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite is a national treasure.
She takes a lot of criticism, pressure and outright nastiness from the pro-illegals, panderers, and one worlders but she sticks to her guns.
I wish we had more in congress like her.


29 posted on 11/26/2007 9:58:25 AM PST by Iron Munro ( (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.))
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