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Stolen trees valued at $1,500 (VA Boy Scouts Christmas Trees Stolen)
Manassas Journal Messenger ^ | Nov 27, 2007 | KEITH WALKER

Posted on 11/27/2007 7:28:42 PM PST by RDTF

A couple of Boy Scout troops lost more than $1,500 worth of Christmas trees to thieves between Nov. 19 and Friday. Troop 1390 out of Dale City and Troop 1396 out of Lake Ridge set up shop every year in the lot in front of the SunTrust Bank in the Forestdale Plaza on Dale Boulevard.

The Scouts generally get a semi-truck load of balsam firs from Nova Scotia, said Doug Doerr, the scoutmaster for Troop 1390.

This year someone stole 34 of the 300 trees the Scouts ordered.

"We have never had a situation like this," said Doerr, who has been involved with the tree lot since 1999. "It's really disappointing."

The theft of the tress, which sell for $30, $45 and $60 depending on size, represents a 11.3 percent loss for the Scouts, Doerr said.

The Scouts use the profits from the tree sales to pay for summer camp where they work on requirements for merit badges, said Doerr, a retired U.S. Marine Corps helicopter pilot.

They split the money according to how many boys work and the number of hours they work at the lot, which is open from 6 to 9 p.m. weekdays and 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. on weekends .

"The more hours you work, the more money goes into your account," Doerr said.

Summer camp costs between $200 and $250 per Scout.

The loss means that each Scout probably won't be able to earn enough to fully pay their camp dues, Doerr said.

Doerr said he would probably take what he earns and spread it out among the boys to try and make up the difference.

The lot typically loses one or two trees a year and the Scouts give four of their trees to local charities, Doerr said.

"We figure people need them worse than we do, and we'll just write that off," Doerr said.

But the loss of 34 trees irks Doerr, who said the Scouts had to jump through governmental hoops to get the proper permitting and permission to sell the trees.

"Somebody is taking these trees and they're sitting on a street corner some place and they are selling them," he said.

Doerr said people who buy the trees probably won't even realize they're buying stolen goods.

The Scouts have been selling the trees at the lot in front of the bank since 1982 or 1983 and most of their customers are repeat business, Doerr said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; christmastrees; princewilliamco; stolenchristmastrees; theft
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1 posted on 11/27/2007 7:28:44 PM PST by RDTF
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To: RDTF

Oh, let’s just Celibrate Diversity, and Coexist!


2 posted on 11/27/2007 7:31:24 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; Pan_Yans Wife; ...

Someone didn’t Live by the Scout Law.


3 posted on 11/27/2007 7:37:04 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: RDTF

Now opening in Prince William County: Paco’s Felice Navidad Christmas Tree Emporium.


4 posted on 11/27/2007 7:45:00 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: RDTF

I’ll bet those Scouts could go steal some fir trees and make a profit. Nobody guards them.

Oh, wait... forget I said that. ;)


5 posted on 11/27/2007 7:46:07 PM PST by iowamark
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To: RDTF

Someone post an address so Freepers can send money to help the boy scouts.


6 posted on 11/27/2007 7:52:14 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Thrownatbirth
Now opening in Prince William County: Paco’s Felice Navidad Christmas Tree Emporium.

Actually, seeing the United Way have a tree-sale fundraiser would also be the potential outcome...

7 posted on 11/27/2007 7:54:09 PM PST by NorCoGOP (www.youtube.com/sharmer162)
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To: RDTF
Let's find some contact info for these troops and see if FReepers will rise to the donation challenge to help make up the loss. I just e-mailed these troop's scoutmasters to ask for advice on how/where to send contributions/donations.

http://troop1390.com/

http://www.troop1396.org/

8 posted on 11/27/2007 7:58:02 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Doctor Don

I’m working on that part (see above).


9 posted on 11/27/2007 7:59:46 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Lemme know address and I’ll be happy to donate.


10 posted on 11/27/2007 8:02:20 PM PST by Grams A
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To: RDTF

$1500? Based on prices around here, that’s what, 6 trees?


11 posted on 11/27/2007 8:03:07 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Get it right - they were “holiday” trees.


12 posted on 11/27/2007 8:06:33 PM PST by svanni
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To: All
It is after 11pm on the East Coast (Virginia) where these Troops are located. I expect to have an answer tomorrow, so please keep checking back on this thread for an update. I'll do my best to ping you all when I get a response from either or both of the Scoutmasters, as to how we can all help out!
13 posted on 11/27/2007 8:07:26 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; All

ya’ll are amazing! That’s why I love FR!

Fox 5 DC ran this story tonight on the 1000 news, but they haven’t posted it on their site yet so I searched for a link to be able to post it and found this one. I’ll post any updates.


14 posted on 11/27/2007 8:08:33 PM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: SandRat
"Someone didn’t Live by the Scout Law."

Probably Marsha Weinerman of Cambridge. The Scouts were being too "political" I guess.

15 posted on 11/27/2007 8:15:27 PM PST by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: RDTF

If we can get 100 Freepers to send $10 (on avg.) each, that would go a LONG way towards making up for their loss. If people can give more, well..... that’s even better!


16 posted on 11/27/2007 8:15:52 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Grams A

Terrific! I will ping you as soon as I hear back from the Scoutmaster(s)!


17 posted on 11/27/2007 8:17:17 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: RDTF; Balding_Eagle; SandRat; Thrownatbirth; iowamark; Doctor Don; NorCoGOP; Grams A; ...
OK, FReepers - get out your checkbooks! I just got a response from one of the Scoutmasters! Please consider donating a minimum of $10, which would go a LONG way towards sending the message to these young men that the world is made up of more good people than bad.

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Dear Mrs. XXXXXXXX,

Thank you for your kind offer. If you would like to make a donation, I recommend sending them to our Chartered Organization, the Elks Lodge. I would address as follows:

Woodbridge Elks Lodge No 2355
C/O Boy Scout Troop 1390/Christmas Trees
14602 Minnieville Road
Woodbridge, VA 22193

Our boys will appreciate this greatly. We have been interviewed by the local NBC, FOX, affiliates here in Northern Virginia. They asked our boys about what they thought, and they all said "disappointment that someone would steal from us." I told them the learning point here is not that some knucklehead stole our trees, but 10-20+ kind people will come through. You are an example of that, and I hope the boys learn a very valuable lesson.

Most Sincerely,
Doug Doerr, Scoutmaster

18 posted on 11/27/2007 8:45:39 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; freema; SandRat; StarCMC; RedRover

Will do and thanks
By the way, per article, Doerr is our kind of guy!

“Doerr, a retired U.S. Marine Corps helicopter pilot.”


19 posted on 11/27/2007 8:48:03 PM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: RDTF

BTTT

Will get a check in the mail tomorrow! Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 11/27/2007 8:52:09 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: SandRat

Self Ping

Woodbridge Elks Lodge No 2355
C/O Boy Scout Troop 1390/Christmas Trees
14602 Minnieville Road
Woodbridge, VA 22193


21 posted on 11/27/2007 8:55:00 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Thanks for getting the info!


22 posted on 11/27/2007 8:55:02 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: BlessedBeGod

It was the least I could do. Luckily these troops had websites. Gotta love the internet!


23 posted on 11/27/2007 8:57:35 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Kathy in Alaska

Check this out when you have a moment!


24 posted on 11/27/2007 9:14:19 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: RDTF

This exact same thing happened on an episode of the Dukes of Hazzard. Thieves stole boy scouts trees. Except the Duke Boys were able to foil the hapless criminals...


25 posted on 11/27/2007 9:17:54 PM PST by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; RDTF; SandRat

Check in the mail tomorrow.


26 posted on 11/27/2007 9:18:42 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ RIP Brian...heaven's gain...the Coast Guard lost a good one.~)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Checked and responded...good job on your part. Thanks.


27 posted on 11/27/2007 9:20:11 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ RIP Brian...heaven's gain...the Coast Guard lost a good one.~)
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To: Kathy in Alaska

Wouldn’t it be something if these Scouts received donations from good-hearted people in all 50 states?! You rock!


28 posted on 11/27/2007 9:20:33 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thanks for the address, I’ll get a check in the mail tomorrow.
29 posted on 11/27/2007 9:27:11 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Do we need an addy for the other troop, or does the one do the trick?

It would be neat, wouldn’t it.


30 posted on 11/27/2007 9:27:58 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ RIP Brian...heaven's gain...the Coast Guard lost a good one.~)
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To: Kathy in Alaska

I hope to have an answer for you as soon as possible, but it might not happen until tomorrow (time zone issues!).


31 posted on 11/27/2007 9:35:55 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Good going! Score another one for the good guys!
32 posted on 11/27/2007 9:37:46 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Thank you for chasing down contact information. I’d like to support them as well. I can’t imagine how heartbroken our boys would be if someone did this to their troop.


33 posted on 11/27/2007 9:39:32 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: All

Your donations will help support the merit badge activities for these fine young men and also to help them attend summer camp! Let’s go, FReepers!


34 posted on 11/27/2007 9:45:55 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Think free or die
Idiot low-life thieves who steal Christmas trees from the Boy Scouts will have to answer on Judgement Day.

In the meantime, I recently told a friend of mine that any Boy or Girl Scout who comes to me for a donation (compensation for popcorn or cookie sales!) will never go away empty-handed. These programs deserve our support!

35 posted on 11/27/2007 9:51:04 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
As an Eagle Scout, I know how hard these kids have to work to get the money for scout camp. To think that someone could be so low as to steal from them is almost beyond words.

Summer camp was where many of my fondest memories of Scouting took place. It's been almost twenty years since my first year at camp, and I can still remember it like it was yesterday.

36 posted on 11/27/2007 9:52:56 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Kathy in Alaska; RDTF; SandRat; Stonewall Jackson; Think free or die; Koblenz; StarCMC
ONE DONATION [TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS] FITS ALL! :-)
Here is the latest update from Scoutmaster Doerr:

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Yes Ma'am, the funds/donations will be shared. You have my word on that.

Troop 1390 has been selling trees here since the early 80's. With the loss of attention in scouting, our troop has greatly reduced in size--far too small for handling a fundraiser of this magnitude. To assist us, I asked my friends from my chuch troop to assist. Troop 1396 is chartered through St Matthew's Lutheran Church. They did not have a fundraiser, and parents just paid for the activities. I asked their leadership if we could "hire them" to assist us. Our troop bears the burden of paying for the shipping of the trees (About $2-2.6K-depending on cost of gas). We share shifts together. When we pay off the cost of the trees, all else is profit, split among the boys, based on the number of hours they work. The more they work, the more they make. One boy from Troop 1396 was able to pay for two separate summer camp adventures!

My plan for donations would work the same as profit. Once the tree cost/shipping is paid, the remaining funds would go into the activity accounts for each boy from our troop, and Troop 1396 would get a lump sum matching their hours worked. This has been very successful to them. In fact, last year, they worked the majority of the shifts and received 2/3d of the money collected.

I hope I am clear enough to understand. If not, I can try tomorrow. (I've been up since 0500).

Most Sincerely,
Doug

37 posted on 11/27/2007 10:02:49 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: BlessedBeGod; Grams A

Ping for the latest from Scoutmaster Doerr!


38 posted on 11/27/2007 10:03:53 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Doctor Don

Ping for the latest from Scoutmaster Doerr!


39 posted on 11/27/2007 10:04:24 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Good job....I like how they “pay out”....those that do the work get the “rewards”. I’ll write the check before I go to bed. Envelope is stamped and addressed.

Thanks for pursuing this so quickly.

40 posted on 11/27/2007 10:40:24 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ RIP Brian...heaven's gain...the Coast Guard lost a good one.~)
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To: nuclady

bookmark for writing check.


41 posted on 11/27/2007 11:23:10 PM PST by nuclady
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Done. And thanks Doug!


42 posted on 11/28/2007 2:39:56 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Im in the Va Beach area.

I’ll keep an eye posted when I go out after work tonight.

Keep in touch.


43 posted on 11/28/2007 5:03:24 AM PST by MacDorcha (We have been at war with this mindset since before the Socratic method was borne.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Self ping


44 posted on 11/28/2007 5:08:13 AM PST by MacDorcha (We have been at war with this mindset since before the Socratic method was borne.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

for your ping list-

they have posted the news report that I saw last night on the DC Fox 10:00 news (video)

http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5058213&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1


45 posted on 11/28/2007 5:44:40 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Hey, it's the BSA, one of the aclu's most hated organizations.

Bet your bippy I'll donate!

46 posted on 11/28/2007 5:52:11 AM PST by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Check’s in the mail! From one Scouting family to others.


47 posted on 11/28/2007 8:10:14 AM PST by Think free or die
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Just to reiterate, and maybe simplify, Doug’s comments. Troops 1390 and 1396 have been partners for the Christmas Tree sales for 3 years. Troop 1390 handles all of the financial dealings, but both troops share the profits. Thanks for your concern.
Tim Connolly
48 posted on 11/28/2007 11:39:50 AM PST by tjconnolly (Assistant Scoutmaster/Treasurer, Troop 1396)
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To: RDTF

The grinch who tried to steal Christmas from the Boy Scouts. What a sad event but hopefully will have a happy ending.


49 posted on 11/28/2007 11:48:34 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: tjconnolly

welcome! FR is a great place to be.


50 posted on 11/28/2007 11:51:49 AM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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