I don't recall anything good or positive having been said on this forum about either of the Clintons, Carter, Johnson or FDR. Occasionally a kind word about Lieberman or Zell Miller but they are rare exceptions.
Then perhaps you should do the honors, but what would you say?
OK, let’s pick one. Say, Carter.
Can you name anything he accomplished as President that was good?
I think his efforts with Habitat have been laudable, but that was of course post-Presidency. Beyond that, it gets pretty thin pretty quick, both during and post.
Occasionally a kind word about Lieberman or Zell Miller but they are rare exceptions.
I personally would add Ben Nelson of Nebraska on that list. But that would be all (those three). lol.
Should anything good come from them...I'll give ya a call...now go stand by the phone....
NAFTA was lauded by many Republicans, as was welfare reform. Also, aside from the timing, I don't recall anyone saying that Clinton should not have bombed Saddam Hussein.
I think we have given Clinton credit for these things. But Bush, even if he utterly toed the liberal line for the rest of his term, would not get credit for anything.
With good reason.
Most comments on FR regarding Carter refer to him being an ineffectual doof, not (like the Bush haters) comments accusing him of murder, torture, swindling, draft-dodging, etc.
As for Johnson or FDR, I don't recall any hatriolics outside of people who feel the Democratic policies have nearly ruined America.
As for Hillary or the Slickster, much of the hatriolic criticism stems from their proven treatment of numerous women, their admitted hijacking of FBI files, their policies of demonizing the wealthy while THEY fudge every rule they can in order to become wealthy.
In short, the Clinton's personal lifestyles...their pushing of the gay agenda, anti-faithful, etc..... is WAAY more insulting and intrusive to the average American than anything Reagan, or Eisenhower, or GWB ever did.
Can't explain it, but I feel the Clintons have consciously singled themselves out to be 'superior' to all us noodniks.
Wait a minute! Clinton has gotten his due. Most would credit him with NAFTA and Welfare Reform (he signed it). He has also been recognized -- for better or for worse -- as a consumate politician.
Carter? I frankly can't recall anything positive emerging from the Carter administration. He'll be remembered for 25% inflation and "malaise", little else.
Try as I might, I can't think of anything positive about the LBJ administration, either. He did a royal job of screwing it up -- Viet Nam, War on Poverty, consolidation of the Social Security and General Funds. He earns credit for some important civil rights legislation. But, by his own admission, it was crassly motivated -- to lock up the black vote for the Democrats for a generation.
FDR won a war, for cryin' out loud. He gets credit for that.
And I notice you didn't mention Harry S Truman -- who is as respected on this board as Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.
By and large, there is more respect expressed on this board for Democrat figures than you would find on any liberal board for Republican figures.
The fact of the matter is, the last three Democrat presidents been either deeply corrupt or nincompoops. Sometimes both. Plus, their most recent candidates, Al Gore and John Kerry, would've fitted right in with that description.
There is something positive about the two Cs, Jimmah Cahtuh, or the other two? Who would have guessed.
Michael Frazier