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Huckabee Leading in Iowa (Rasmussen Reports)
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Posted on 11/28/2007 8:34:14 AM PST by Def Conservative

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To: Petronski

The item properly added to the title yesterday was factually correct, as is this title.

Yesterday you called a freeper a liar for telling the truth, and did so repeatedly one would presume out of concern that fellow freepers would be “confused” by the lying headline.

Today, nothing.

One could suspect either that you know it isn’t a lie to repeat the ranking in a poll, which I suspect you do, or that you simply don’t want to correct a lie if it helps your candidate.

But I make neither charge, only that your actions yesterday and today are in contradiction.

You may explain the contradiction however you like. To me it looks like you just wanted to attack a fellow freeper because of who he supports, rather than caring about the truth.

If you cared about the truth, you would consistantly interpret the truth and consistantly educate other freepers on your truth.

Surely you aren’t saying that freepers don’t correct headlines when the are false. We do that all the time, and I bet I could find an example where you corrected a headline that falsely maligned your candidate.


81 posted on 11/28/2007 9:42:29 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Def Conservative
Huckabee spells disaster for the GOP. Can the Republicans be this stupid and vote for him?
82 posted on 11/28/2007 9:43:21 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: codercpc

The real value of endorsements like NRA and NRL, in a crowded field like this, isn’t in the announcement of them, but in the communications with membership, and the work the organization does on the ground (mailers, door-knocking, radio spots, etc.).

If there’s going to be a benefit at all, it’s going to show up later.


83 posted on 11/28/2007 9:45:24 AM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: Alter Kaker

One name...

John Cox


84 posted on 11/28/2007 9:46:01 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney, like curing cancer with a coronary...)
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To: roses of sharon

I am a pro-life voting republican for 30 years and have NEVER heard such as you are accussing...NEVER...and not here at FR either...and you get your info from “pundits” and “show hosts”...You should know better.

I was ONCE a pro-abort democrat (a volunteer in Al Gore’s daddy’s headquarters)...so I know the other side...it is THEY who call people scum, etc.

We do have a qaundry on our hands...not voting for the GOP nominee will assure the party of hate, wealth confiscation, gutting of the military, and vote buying with ever increasing welfare give-aways will lead us to doom...and abortion marches on...


85 posted on 11/28/2007 9:46:12 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Jane Austen
It is totally crazy. He is worse than Bush on the immigration issue and he's as bad as any senator on spending. He is Hillary-lite. Fred Thompson was right when he called Huck a pro-life liberal.

Mr. Huckabee was the only GOP candidate to refuse to endorse President Bush's veto of the Democrats' bill to vastly expand the Schip health-care program. Only he and John McCain have endorsed the discredited cap-and-trade system to limit global-warming emissions that has proved a fiasco in Europe. http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110010782

86 posted on 11/28/2007 9:47:56 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate (STOP the HuckSchmucks)
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To: Route66

You are right...still early...a co-worker said to me today “Huckabee is up in Iowa...I thought you said he can’t win.”

I replied, “McCain won New Hampshire last time...is he president?”


87 posted on 11/28/2007 9:48:01 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Def Conservative

It just shows what BS the Iowa Caucus is. Huckabee is a nobody in just about every state outside of Arkansas. Yeah, let’s put a former minister in the White House. This guy may win Iowa, shame on Iowa Republicans, but when he goes to the other states where real primaries are held, he will disappear quicker than snow in 60 degree temperatures.


88 posted on 11/28/2007 9:49:16 AM PST by CdMGuy
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To: Def Conservative

Huckabee leads thanks to Giuliani and FoxNews.

But, if Romney and others can’t overcome it, then it’s not my fault. It’s their ability to campaign.


89 posted on 11/28/2007 9:50:00 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The item properly added to the title yesterday was factually correct, as is this title.

It was false, and knowingly so.

Yesterday you called a freeper a liar for telling the truth...

Nope. It was not true. It was a lie.

One could suspect either that you know it isn’t a lie to repeat the ranking in a poll

It was a statistical tie. The addition to the headline ("tied for last among frontrunners") was a lie.

There's no addition to today's headline beyond an identifier of the source (which is accurate).

If you cared about the truth, you would consistantly interpret the truth and consistantly educate other freepers on your truth.

Wow, you can't be oblivious to the distinction between yesterday's headline (with it's lying addition) and today's (no lies), can you? No one is THAT stupid.

90 posted on 11/28/2007 9:51:58 AM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“One could suspect either that you know it isn’t a lie to repeat the ranking in a poll, which I suspect you do, or that you simply don’t want to correct a lie if it helps your candidate.
But I make neither charge, only that your actions yesterday and today are in contradiction.”

I read the thread yesterday that you’re referring to. I agree there seems to be a contradiction, but I think it’s just that people are “Super Charged” about their candidate, and tend to get sucked into sports fan mentality.
I’ve seen supporters of each candidate do that, IMHO the FDT supporters have amped this up over the last few weeks. I guess it could be a natural reaction to FDT not seeming to get traction.


91 posted on 11/28/2007 9:53:36 AM PST by snarkybob
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To: Petronski

Yep!


92 posted on 11/28/2007 9:55:12 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't hurt!)
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To: Reagan Man; Petronski
No one is THAT stupid.

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Ping to post #90. Petronski is being optimistic again. :)

93 posted on 11/28/2007 9:56:18 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Impeach the Boy
Well, I have been bookmarking those comments here, but you have heard the tone and know what I mean.

I don’t feel comfortable with all the condemnation because I feel I’m on your (and all of us here, including those pundits and talk shows), side, even if some don’t feel they are on mine.

Like it or not, rarely does one have an election without an attitude of “lesser of evils”.

It would be a blessing to have at least one election in ones lifetime to feel proud about. And I feel lucky to have had one with RR, and another a little less with GWB because of his age (I prefer older men for Pres) and “compassionate” conservatism.

So maybe we should be counting our blessings and battling against the UnAmerican MSM/DNC for a change?

94 posted on 11/28/2007 9:58:19 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: SHEENA26

Yup, the MSM is jumping on any bandwagon besides Thompson, or even Rudy. Being rather shallow, they were afraid Thompson could beat Hillary. With Rudy, worst case, we have a liberal Republican president that alienates the conservative base.

They’ve touted Ron Paul, Huckabee, sometimes McCain. Presdient Huckabee? It won’t happen.

Letting the MSM choose the Republican nominee is like letting the opposing manager pick your starting pitcher.


95 posted on 11/28/2007 10:00:30 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Def Conservative
As Ann Coulter said: "On illegal immigration, Huckabee makes George Bush sound like Tom Tancredo."

It would be hard to be worse than Bush on illegal immigration, but Huckabee is the man who can do it.

96 posted on 11/28/2007 10:01:55 AM PST by Pelham ("You Can't Deport Them" the fallback position of the Amnesty Republicans)
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To: Def Conservative

I’m making that my tagline


97 posted on 11/28/2007 10:02:12 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("On illegal immigration, Huckabee makes George Bush sound like Tom Tancredo." - Ann Coulter)
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To: trisham; Petronski
>>>>>Petronski is being optimistic again. :)

Righto!

Optimism is great. Problem. Its wasted on posters who are inflicted with rhetorical diarrhea. ;^)

98 posted on 11/28/2007 10:04:32 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Biblebelter
The Iowa caucuses mean little to Republican politics.

You should have told Mitt Romney this. It would have saved a ton of money.

99 posted on 11/28/2007 10:05:43 AM PST by CommerceComet
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To: Def Conservative

I just do get why Iowa and New Hamp get to choose who should be our presidential choices.


100 posted on 11/28/2007 10:09:08 AM PST by JFC
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