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Rudy Presses Suit (The candidate, as mayor, was a perpetual plaintiff.)
National Review Online ^ | 11-28-07 | Kate O'Beirne

Posted on 11/28/2007 10:08:53 AM PST by TitansAFC

Candidate Rudy Giuliani pledges to appoint strict-constructionist judges who won’t make policy from the bench, because “making laws is the responsibility of an elected legislature.” He cites Justices Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito as model appointments. Plaintiff Giuliani had a wholly different view of the judge’s role. As mayor of New York City, he launched lawsuits that sought liberal rulings to punish gun manufacturers and to overturn legislation on immigration, welfare reform, and taxes. When elected legislatures made laws with which he disagreed, this Giuliani thought it was a judge’s responsibility to legislate from the bench.

In late September, Rudy Giuliani appeared at a National Rifle Association conference to assure the audience that he opposes any new restrictions on gun ownership and views the right to bear arms as “just as important a part of the Constitution as the right to free speech and the other rights.” On the same day, the nation’s biggest gun manufacturers filed an appeal to overturn a ruling that had allowed a suit brought against them by Mayor Giuliani to proceed.

That lawsuit was filed in 2000 against 26 gun manufacturers and distributors for their “intentional and reckless” practices allegedly leading to gun violence. Congressional Republicans saw it as an attempt to achieve in the courts what the anti-gun lobby couldn’t achieve through the legislative process. The gun-rights lobby fought back, and scored a victory when President Bush signed a law ordering the dismissal of lawsuits that attempted to hold gun manufacturers accountable for the actions of criminals. Candidate Giuliani now explains that the suit, which current New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg is still pushing, “has taken several turns and several twists that I don’t agree with.” Apparently he still endorses the suit as originally conceived.

The only Republican mayor to participate in lawsuits against the gun industry, Giuliani claims he was merely trying to use every available tool to reduce crime in his city — including a novel theory of culpability and an activist judge who agreed with it.

Giuliani’s misuse of the courts has not been limited to guns. When President Clinton signed long-overdue, GOP-style welfare reform in 1996, conservatives saw it as a triumph for the new congressional majority. But Mayor Giuliani declared, “We will not implement this law,” and sued the Clinton administration to overturn provisions he disagreed with.

The welfare reform prohibited local jurisdictions from passing laws to prevent their officials from voluntarily disclosing information about the citizenship status of aliens. This conflicted with a 1989 New York City executive order signed by former mayor Ed Koch, which barred city officials from reporting immigration status to the INS. Mayor Giuliani supported this order — and, although the welfare reform didn’t mandate that city officials report illegal aliens, he claimed that it would lead to their “indecent or inhumane treatment” by ending New York’s “zone of protection for illegal and undocumented immigrants.” He also challenged the constitutionality of a provision denying some welfare benefits to immigrants. In both cases, he lost: A federal court held that Congress has broad authority to legislate in the area of immigration.

In 1994, 59 percent of California voters approved Proposition 187, which denied a host of state benefits to illegal aliens. Within days, a court blocked the majority will, and four years later most of Proposition 187’s provisions were overturned. Former California governor Pete Wilson fought the courts by filing an appeal (later abandoned by his successor). Mayor Giuliani didn’t join the suit against Prop 187, but he hailed the judge’s decision to overturn it, telling immigration-rights activists, “Hopefully, the fate of Proposition 187 — both its passage and its most recent defeat in court — will be markers of the start and end of this most recent wave of anti-immigrant sentiment.”

When New York’s state legislature repealed a 33-year-old commuter tax on state residents who worked in New York City, Mayor Giuliani sued. He argued that lawmakers had wrongly deprived his city of revenue. When the state’s highest court upheld the tax repeal, Giuliani all but admitted he had mounted a frivolous challenge: “We expected that we would lose the case, so it doesn’t come as a surprise to me.”

In seeking to overturn legislation he opposed, Giuliani wasn’t acting as a private attorney hired to make a client’s case regardless of his personal views. Plaintiff Giuliani found enough merit in these suits to launch them in the first place. Candidate Giuliani explains that he now favors gun rights and tax relief, and he has taken a tougher position on immigration enforcement. What he hasn’t explained is how his judicial philosophy has changed since his days as a litigious mayor.

Conservatives don’t argue that it is always inappropriate to seek court action striking down laws passed by democratically elected bodies. In a recent debate, Mitt Romney criticized Giuliani for suing President Clinton over the line-item veto Congress passed in 1996. That time Mayor Giuliani won his challenge: In a six-to-three decision, the Supreme Court found that the president’s line-item-veto authority violated the Constitution’s separation-of-powers doctrine. Justices Scalia and Thomas were on opposite sides of the case.

But Plaintiff Giuliani didn’t take Clinton to court to vindicate an important constitutional principle. Clinton had used his line-item veto to strike a Medicaid-reimbursement provision that benefited New York City. Giuliani sued simply to protect his windfall, complaining that the veto “unfairly targets the city and state of New York.”

While Romney favors a version of the line-item veto that he believes would pass constitutional muster, Giuliani pledges to propose a constitutional amendment establishing a line-item veto. He explains, “The line-item veto is unconstitutional. You don’t get to ‘believe’ about it. The Supreme Court has ruled on it.” Here, Candidate Giuliani appears to endorse the proposition that, once the Supreme Court has spoken, an issue has been put to rest — in contrast with those who believe we are governed by the Constitution, not the Court. That position would have ruled out challenges to the Court’s abortion jurisprudence that saw a modified ban on partial-birth abortion upheld after a previous ban had been struck down.

Conservatives can only hope that President Giuliani — if such is our fate — can be counted on to appoint judges who would throw Plaintiff Giuliani out of court.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; immigration; prop187; rudy
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---"Conservatives can only hope that President Giuliani — if such is our fate — can be counted on to appoint judges who would throw Plaintiff Giuliani out of court."---

And we can hope that President Hillary gets baptized in the late Jerry Falwell's church and begins a new life championing the Pro-Life movement. Both are equally stupid hopes.

1 posted on 11/28/2007 10:08:54 AM PST by TitansAFC
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To: FreeInWV; 383rr; abishai; Afronaut; airborne; Alberta's Child; Alice in Wonderland; Antonious; ...

The “Stop Rudy” ping list!

E-mail/ping me if you want on/off the list! SPREAD THE WORD!!!


2 posted on 11/28/2007 10:09:26 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC
As mayor of New York City, he launched lawsuits that sought liberal rulings to punish gun manufacturers and to overturn legislation on immigration, welfare reform, and taxes. When elected legislatures made laws with which he disagreed, this Giuliani thought it was a judge’s responsibility to legislate from the bench.

ZING! That's gotta hurt.

3 posted on 11/28/2007 10:13:03 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (If Rudy's an influential conservative, then I'm an award winning concert pianist.)
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To: TitansAFC

I press suits, too, and men’s new shirts. It’s part of our customer service at Men’s Wearhouse.


4 posted on 11/28/2007 10:13:34 AM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: TitansAFC

Stop Rudy ? Good luck with that one..


5 posted on 11/28/2007 10:14:12 AM PST by fantom
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To: TitansAFC
>>>>>When elected legislatures made laws with which he disagreed, this Giuliani thought it was a judge’s responsibility to legislate from the bench.

The sure mark of an authoritarian and opportunist.

6 posted on 11/28/2007 10:15:15 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: TitansAFC
A preview of what a Julie Annie presidency would be like, from a 1998 Daily News article (I lived in NY at the time):

Mayor Giuliani is poised to launch a major crackdown on a habit many New Yorkers consider their inalienable right: jaywalking.

Giuliani yesterday hinted that tomorrow's State of the City address will include a plan to increase the $2 fine now levied on those who cross at the wrong place or the wrong time.

Pedestrians howled in anger and frustration at the plan, which comes weeks after the city placed sidewalk barricades to block key midtown intersections to walkers.

But Giuliani showed little sign of backing down and launched an impromptu lecture about jaywalking's evils.

"Jaywalking is a very dangerous thing," he said

Got laws??

7 posted on 11/28/2007 10:18:13 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: fantom

-—”Stop Rudy ? Good luck with that one..”-—

Hey....if we don’t stop the Liberals, who will?


8 posted on 11/28/2007 10:18:18 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC
If this nation could have learned one lesson from the Clinton administration, it would be this:

NEVER ELECT LAWYERS TO SERVE IN AN EXECUTIVE CAPACITY -- ANYWHERE.

This article is a perfect illustration of why this ought to be the case. The scathing Biblical admonition against lawyers also summed up the problem perfectly.

"Woe to you lawyers also, because you load men with burdens which they cannot bear, and you yourselves touch not the packs with one of your fingers." -- Luke 11:46

9 posted on 11/28/2007 10:21:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: ValerieTexas

You work at Men’s Wearhouse? I’d love to hear myself on one of those “George Zimmer voice mail” commercials!


10 posted on 11/28/2007 10:22:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: TitansAFC

Rooty will have to pass a law that stops him from suing anything that moves.


11 posted on 11/28/2007 10:24:00 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: TitansAFC

ping

please add, BTW - what is the big story drudge is going to drop today on the Rudster


12 posted on 11/28/2007 10:25:10 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: dashing doofus
Ironically, Giuliani's anti-jaywalking measures were among the legitimate applications of government authority in the City of New York.

As a civil engineer with a thorough understanding of traffic operations, I'd have no problem if a municipal government started tossing jaywalkers in jail. In a city like New York they are enormous pains in the @ss, and pose serious impediments to vehicular traffic and safety concerns for themselves and others.

13 posted on 11/28/2007 10:26:17 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: TitansAFC
---"Conservatives can only hope that President Giuliani — if such is our fate — can be counted on to appoint judges who would throw Plaintiff Giuliani out of court."---

And we can hope that President Hillary gets baptized in the late Jerry Falwell's church and begins a new life championing the Pro-Life movement. Both are equally stupid hopes.

And we can wish that Soros has an even bigger conversion than Hillary and makes certain that both his sock puppets, Rudy and Hillary, carry out his latest orders to follow the Constitution to the letter and appoint SC Justices who will do likewise.

Wish in one hand, s--t in the other, and see which one gets filled up first.

14 posted on 11/28/2007 10:29:46 AM PST by penowa
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To: Alberta's Child
Good I left then. ;-).

The pedestrians wouldn't even fit on the sidewalks outside of Penn Station during rush hour. You had to walk on the streets. But there were plenty of crazy pedestrians, for sure. I just see the image of barricaded sidewalks and strict fines for j-walking as emblematic of Julie Annie's authoritarian overreach.

Maybe I should post the gum-spitting penalties he proposed?

15 posted on 11/28/2007 10:30:37 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Fred
Added. Thanks for joining the cause!

I think it looks to be that Rudy and his team are going to get busted for spending massively. One of the constant whispering campaigns done by Team Rudy has been that he “hasn’t had to spend any money, but look where he is!”

What we’ll see, I suspect, is that Rudy has gone through nearly all of his raised cash for the Primary, and that his burn rate is much, much higher than his team wanted the public to know.

I suspect we’ll all get to see that he has been spending - a lot - and still falling slowly in the polls and tanking in the early Primary states. Get ready for some massive spinning coming from team Rudy.

16 posted on 11/28/2007 10:31:46 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: ValerieTexas

You can’t run for POTUS in baggy pants.


17 posted on 11/28/2007 10:32:43 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

Hillary would look awful in skin tights, though.


18 posted on 11/28/2007 10:43:54 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: TitansAFC

Anything written by Kate Obierne should be ignored. She is pathetic. She allowed herself to be continually insulted by the other panelists on Capital Gang but stayed on to collect her paycheck. She is a truly pathetic fool.


19 posted on 11/28/2007 10:45:24 AM PST by jubail
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To: dashing doofus
There might be a couple of different issues here. The anti-jaywalking initiative I remembered was specifically aimed at eliminating traffic congestion at some key locations in midtown Manhattan -- by prohibiting people from crossing at the intersections (this is what the barriers were for) and forcing them to use new signalized mid-block crossings instead. This eliminated the vehicle/pedestrian conflicts at those busy intersections and helped reduce congestion by allowing cars to turn freely at the intersections without having to stop for pedestrians.

This is an effective way to improve the flow of traffic at busy intersections, and the "pedestrian group representatives" who complained about it were basically just professional malcontents.

20 posted on 11/28/2007 10:45:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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