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Giuliani billed obscure agencies for trips
Politico ^ | 112807 | By: Ben Smith

Posted on 11/28/2007 11:56:43 AM PST by Fred

Giuliani billed obscure agencies for trips By: Ben Smith November 28, 2007 02:55 PM EST

As New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons, according to previously undisclosed government records.

The documents, obtained by Politico under New York’s Freedom of Information Law, show that the mayoral costs had nothing to do with the functions of the little-known city offices that defrayed his tabs, including agencies responsible for regulating loft apartments, aiding the disabled and providing lawyers for indigent defendants.

At the time, the mayor’s office refused to explain the accounting to city auditors, citing “security.”

The Hamptons visits resulted in hotel, gas and other costs for Giuliani’s New York Police Department security detail.

Giuliani’s relationship with Nathan is old news now, and Giuliani regularly asks voters on the campaign trail to forgive his "mistakes."

It’s also impossible to know whether the purpose of all the Hamptons trips was to see Nathan. A Giuliani spokeswoman declined to discuss any aspect of this story, which was explained in detail to her earlier this week.

But the practice of transferring the travel expenses of Giuliani's security detail to the accounts of obscure mayoral offices has never been brought to light, despite behind-the-scenes criticism from the city comptroller weeks after Giuliani left office.

The expenses first surfaced as Giuliani's two terms as mayor of New York drew to a close in 2001, when a city auditor stumbled across something unusual: $34,000 worth of travel expenses buried in the accounts of the New York City Loft Board.

When the city's fiscal monitor asked for an explanation, Giuliani's aides refused, citing "security," said Jeff Simmons, a spokesman for the city comptroller.

But American Express bills and travel documents obtained by Politico suggest another reason City Hall may have considered the documents sensitive: They detail three summers of visits to Southampton, the Long Island town where Nathan had an apartment.

Auditors "were unable to verify that these expenses were for legitimate or necessary purposes," City Comptroller William Thompson wrote of the expenses from Fiscal Year 2000, which covers parts of 1999 and 2000.

The letter, whose existence has not been previously reported, was also obtained under the Freedom of Information Law.

Long Island bills

The receipts tally the costs of hotel and gas bills for the police detectives who traveled everywhere with the mayor, according to cover sheets that label them “PD expenses” and travel authorizations that describe the trips.

Many are from hotels and gas stations on Long Island, where Giuliani reportedly began visiting Nathan’s Southampton condominium in the summer of 1999, though Giuliani and Nathan have never discussed the beginning of their relationship.

Nathan would go on to become Giuliani’s third wife, but his second marriage was officially intact until the spring of 2000, and City Hall officials at the time responded to questions about his absences by saying he was spending time with his son and playing golf.

The receipts have languished in city files since Giuliani left office, apparently in part because of City Hall's decision to bill police expenses to a range of little-known city offices.

"There is no really good reason to do this except to have nobody know about it," Carol O'Cleireacain, a Brookings Institution senior fellow who was budget director under Giuliani's predecessor, David Dinkins, said of the unusual billing practices.

A Giuliani spokeswoman, Sunny Mindel, declined to comment on any aspect of the travel documents or the billing arrangements.

A Giuliani aide who would speak only on the condition of anonymity denied that the unorthodox billing practices were aimed at hiding the expenses, citing "accounting" and noting that they were billed to units of the mayor's office, not to outside city agencies.

The aide declined to discuss Giuliani's visits to Long Island.

The trips themselves were a departure for a mayor who had prided himself on spending every waking moment in the city and on the job, and offer a glimpse into the dramatic and controversial finale to his tenure in office.

Receipts show him in Southampton every weekend in August and the first weekend in September of 2001, before the terror attacks of Sept. 11 disrupted the routines of his city.

Both the travel expenses and the appearance that his office made efforts to conceal them could open Giuliani to criticism that his personal life spilled over into his official duties and his expenses grew in his final years in office.

It is impossible to say which of the 11 Long Island trips indicated by credit card receipts were to visit Nathan and which were for other purposes.

Eight of those trips, however, were not noted on Giuliani's official schedule, which is now available in the city's municipal archive and contains many details of Giuliani's official and unofficial life.

The billing practices, however, drew formal attention on Jan. 24, 2002, when Thompson, the city comptroller, wrote the newly elected mayor, Michael Bloomberg, a confidential letter.

One of his auditors, he wrote, had stumbled upon the unexplained travel expenses during a routine audit of the Loft Board, a tiny branch of city government that regulates certain apartments.

Broadening the inquiry, the comptroller wrote, auditors found similar expenses at a range of other unlikely agencies: $10,054 billed to the Office for People with Disabilities and $29,757 to the Procurement Policy Board.

The next year, yet another obscure department, the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office, was billed around $400,000 for travel.

Increasing costs

"The Comptroller's Office made repeated requests for the information in 2001 and 2002 but was informed that due to security concerns the information could not be provided," said Simmons. Thompson took office in 2002.

Thompson also warned that travel costs had increased by 151 percent in Giuliani's final fiscal year, to more than $618,000, a number which also includes police security on campaign swings for Giuliani’s abortive 2000 Senate run and trips to Los Angeles by Donna Hanover, who remained Giuliani's wife and the city's official first lady, in the fall of 2000.

Most of that travel also was billed to obscure agencies, though portions — much of it trips to and from Washington by Giuliani deputies — were accounted for more conventionally, with a more visible charge to the mayor's office.

Thompson suggested Bloomberg "review…the cost of Mayoralty travel expenses, given your administration's focus on fiscal constraints."

A spokesman for Mayor Bloomberg, Stu Loeser, said: "When we received the letter from the comptroller, we referred the matter to the department of Investigations as we would in any case like this."

A spokeswoman for the department of Investigations declined to comment.

The executive director of the Loft Board referred Politico to Bloomberg's office for comment.

The first trip to Southampton appearing in the travel documents runs from Aug. 31 to Sept. 1, 1999.

Four police officers spent the night at the Atlantic Utopia Lifestyle Inn, according to an approval request for official out-of-city travel, billing the city $1,016.20.

Giuliani’s private schedule, available from the municipal archive, lists no events on Long Island that day.

The New York Post reported the following year that Giuliani "had long weekend visits with gal pal Judi Nathan at her Southampton, L.I., condo last summer, according to neighbors who said the mayor did little to conceal their relationship.”

The neighbors called their relationship and their time in Nathan's two-bedroom condo overlooking Noyack Bay "an open secret.”

"Several residents of the condo sometimes asked Giuliani's driver and members of his security entourage to turn off their car engines," the Post reported.

That first trip was followed by at least 10 more, according to the travel and credit card documents.

One of those trips, on Aug. 20-21 of 1999, included a fundraiser on the evening of the 21st. Giuliani’s four-man detail arrived 24 hours early, billing the city $1704.43 at the Southampton Inn, according to their approval request.

More trips followed in the summer of 2000, after the mayor's affair with Nathan became public and they were seen together publicly in Southampton. The trips accelerated in the summer of 2001, when he visited Southampton every weekend in August, as well as on Sept. 2.

Many of the trips only show expenses for gas, though his police detail billed the city $1371.40 for the nights of Aug. 3-4 of 2001 at the Village Latch Inn in Southampton.

Giuliani's police detail also spent a night in Palm Beach, Fla., according to the bill for the American Express card under Giuliani's name. The detectives spent $1714.99 at The Breakers, a sprawling hotel and resort.

There is no indication that Nathan visited Palm Beach. Giuliani's aide did not recall the trip.

The 2001 travel expenses were billed to the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office, a little-known unit of the mayor's office involved in programs that provide lawyers to poor defendants.

None of the 2001 trips to Southampton appear in Giuliani's official schedule. However, the schedule does contain a potential clue to his destination. Before three of them, Giuliani paid a visit to his barber, Carlo Fargnoli, on York Avenue near the mayor's official residence, Gracie Mansion.

Politico intern Kate Linthicum contributed to this article.

TM & © THE POLITICO & POLITICO.COM, a division of Allbritton Communications Company


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To: plewis1250

Drudge has it.

The Rudy supporters will just yawn and say so what?


21 posted on 11/28/2007 12:25:30 PM PST by JRochelle (Thanks to RomneyCare, abortions in MA are at the reduced price of only $50.00!)
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To: Fred
"Honey, Isn't This A Hoot!"

"The Tax Paying Smucks Are Paying For This.
Where Ya Wanna Go Next Weekend .. Aruba?"

22 posted on 11/28/2007 12:27:44 PM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite)
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To: Fred

Rudy is a snake, not unlike Bill Clintoon.

America deserves better.


23 posted on 11/28/2007 12:31:29 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Badeye
‘It’s also impossible to know whether the purpose of all the Hamptons trips was to see Nathan. ‘

... this is nothing but a slimey political hit piece, the only important sentence in the entire screed is the one I copied in quotation marks above.

You're right--with Rudy's record, it could have been any woman--or man.

Looking at the politico documents, it appears they were weekend trips.

24 posted on 11/28/2007 12:33:52 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: TitansAFC
****Rudy is entitled ping.****

Rudy is entitled to be indicted - ping :-)

25 posted on 11/28/2007 12:34:41 PM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Rudy is gonna kill the GOP if he gets the nomination.

He's doing a pretty good job, already.

26 posted on 11/28/2007 12:35:05 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Condor51; indylindy; calcowgirl; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; George W. Bush; Reagan Man; ...
"There is no really good reason to (conceal the Mayor's non-official travel bills in obscure city agencies) except to have nobody know about it," Carol O'Cleireacain, a Brookings Institution senior fellow.....said of the unusual billing practices.


The married father Giuliani and the married Nathan were an item
after Judy stalked Giuliani in a NYC cigar bar. They were seeing
each other in 2001, during the period when Rudy's mysterious
non-mayoral travel expenses were billed to obscure city agencies.
Photo: AP

EXCERPT (Giuliani's) first trip to Southampton appearing in the travel documents runs from Aug. 31 to Sept. 1, 1999. Four police officers spent the night at the Atlantic Utopia Lifestyle Inn, according to an approval request for official out-of-city travel, billing the city $1,016.20.

Giuliani’s private schedule, available from the municipal archive, lists no events on Long Island that day.

The New York Post reported the following year that Giuliani "had long weekend visits with gal pal Judi Nathan at her Southampton, L.I., condo last summer, according to neighbors who said the mayor did little to conceal their relationship.” The neighbors called their relationship and their time in Nathan's two-bedroom condo overlooking Noyack Bay "an open secret.” "Several residents of the condo sometimes asked Giuliani's driver and members of his security entourage to turn off their car engines," the Post reported.

That first trip was followed by at least 10 more, according to the travel and credit card documents. One of those trips, on Aug. 20-21 of 1999, included a fundraiser on the evening of the 21st. Giuliani’s four-man detail arrived 24 hours early, billing the city $1704.43 at the Southampton Inn, according to their approval request.

More trips followed in the summer of 2000, after the mayor's affair with Nathan became public and they were seen together publicly in Southampton. The trips accelerated in the summer of 2001, when he visited Southampton every weekend in August, as well as on Sept. 2.

Many of the trips only show expenses for gas, though his police detail billed the city $1371.40 for the nights of Aug. 3-4 of 2001 at the Village Latch Inn in Southampton. Giuliani's police detail also spent a night in Palm Beach, Fla., according to the bill for the American Express card under Giuliani's name. The detectives spent $1714.99 at The Breakers, a sprawling hotel and resort. There is no indication that Nathan visited Palm Beach. Giuliani's aide did not recall the trip.

The 2001 travel expenses were billed to the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office, a little-known unit of the mayor's office involved in programs that provide lawyers to poor defendants.

None of the 2001 trips to Southampton appear in Giuliani's official schedule. However, the schedule does contain a potential clue to his destination. Before three of them, Giuliani paid a visit to his barber, Carlo Fargnoli, on York Avenue near the mayor's official residence, Gracie Mansion.

27 posted on 11/28/2007 12:43:53 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Condor51

The married Rudy was getting sexually blitzed by his married mistress on the taxpayers’ dime.


28 posted on 11/28/2007 12:45:22 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Fred

29 posted on 11/28/2007 12:52:27 PM PST by B-Cause (“If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it is free!”)
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To: Fred

‘I rather he get out of the race.’

(chuckle)

So I gather. I think you’ll have to wait til February 2nd or so.


30 posted on 11/28/2007 12:54:38 PM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Fred; Liz

Haaallloooo! Roooty?! This is your luv! JOOOOOTY!!!
Listen, get over here to da Hamptons! I need some luvin!!

I'll be right there Jooooty!
I'll charter a plane and charge it to my campaign.

31 posted on 11/28/2007 12:55:04 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: calcowgirl

(chuckle)

Incorrigble comes to mind, cowgirl....(chuckle)


32 posted on 11/28/2007 12:57:38 PM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Condor51

I agree, but can he be investigated and prosecuted for misappropriating the people of New Yorks money? He should be if he can’t prove he was doing the “peoples business” instead of “risky business” At the very least re-imburse the city.

The man appears to be a mob boss more than a Presidential Candidate, how anyone can take him seriously as a contender is beyond me.


33 posted on 11/28/2007 1:05:43 PM PST by Horusra
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To: SkyPilot

EEEEEEeeeeeewwwwwww.... That is not a nice-looking piece of strange Rudy dumped the wife for. You’d think “America’s Mayor” could do better.

BTW, the guy who said Billy Jeff Clinton is no worse than Rudy is clearly hyperventilating and verging on madness.

As much as I prefer Hunter, Romney, and Thompson (in that order) RG wouldn’t be 1/100th as destructive as another Clinton administration.


34 posted on 11/28/2007 1:15:40 PM PST by Burr5
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To: Fred
B U S T E D !

Then again, we all knew he was a smarmy scumbag, right?
35 posted on 11/28/2007 1:19:53 PM PST by this is my name not yours (Free speech is the escape valve that keeps some people from picking up a rifle.)
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To: Fred

The billings are for security detail’s travel expenses. The mayor’s security detail goes where the mayor goes. I missed the part where it says the mayor of NYC is forbidden to leave the city.


36 posted on 11/28/2007 1:20:31 PM PST by elli1
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To: Horusra
*** I agree, but can he be investigated and prosecuted for misappropriating the people of New Yorks money? ****

He suuure can.
The ex gov of IL, George Ryan (RINO), is now sitting in a Federal Prison for doing less with the peoples money and on the peoples dime.

Now the Federal Prosecutor for the Souther District of New York (Manhattan) needs to start issuing subpoenas of those records. And I can't imagine Schumer not screaming for an investigation.

37 posted on 11/28/2007 1:21:31 PM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite)
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To: Liz
**** The married Rudy was getting sexually blitzed by his married mistress on the taxpayers’ dime. *****

If the Rudybots support him after this - they need their head examined. This is not a 'moral' or 'values' issue this is freaking criminal.

And any politician or celebrity who endorsed him better start backtracking pdq. This "isn't about sex", nor is it a "personal matter".

38 posted on 11/28/2007 1:27:04 PM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite)
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To: Fred
Rudy sure knows how to 'milk' the system. After all, you can hide ANYTHING under the guise of 'security'. It would be hard to find another candidate with as much baggage as Rudy.

Heck, I bet that even SLICK is impressed with Rudy's ability to cheat on his wife, FLAUNT IT,,,,and milk the system while doing it!!!

39 posted on 11/28/2007 1:31:02 PM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: Fred
Why do I see the nasty hand of the Hildabeast in this article?

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Additionally see anti-Rudy folks in force in the first ten postings... coincidence??? I think NOT...> smirk <

Hildabeast needs to come clean... Show the documents that she is hiding... Then throw a bitch fest on another candidate who's worse than she is... BUT we know she can't and won't do that.

And like poor misunderstood nitwit John Kerry... who still won't sign the SF 180, the Hildabeast will go down in flames.

Americans like transparency.

40 posted on 11/28/2007 1:33:13 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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