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To: ChristianDefender
what's up with Rick's mind but certainly Hillary's speech is not the main part of the service... :-)

Doesn't matter. It's a pastor's duty to safeguard his congregation's minds from junk messages and instead promote biblical ones. That means no inviting evil speakers to ANY meeting, of which the Witch is one.

the congregation will flood the church council with question about why this thing happened.

Really? From what I heard she got a standing ovation. Seems like the majority of the congregation is following their Pastor right off the cliff.

Shame on Warren and any of the council who are allowing in speakers like Obama and Hitlery

And by the way, I don't like Warren's messages either. They are off-center.

38 posted on 11/29/2007 7:46:09 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Agree on that.

I'm more into how we Christians could show them what we are when we gather. But if it goes beyond that, especially supporting a wicked political and moral stance, it's beyond borders.

If Rick's leadership or the Saddleback Church did go beyond that border, then pity on them. But it's too early for me to judge... and would prefer not to. They won't gonna like the consequences if beyond Christianity is indeed their purpose.

I don't easily believe on any type of preacher... I always refer to the Bible before agreeing with him/her.

44 posted on 11/29/2007 8:00:36 PM PST by ChristianDefender (I Hear, I Forget. I See, I Remember. I Do, I Understand.)
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To: what's up

“Seems like the majority of the congregation is following their Pastor right off the cliff.”

They’re both already over the cliff.


53 posted on 11/29/2007 8:14:40 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Elect Hussein Obama for President, give a kid a whack at it.)
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