Uhm, er, yes. But God knows what somebody truly is. God knows when a person is lying and deceiving the public for power & money.
The PUBLIC cannot know when the PUBLIC is being also deceived by an enabler and a fellow deceiver. This “minister” is serving evil as well, or even better, than Goebbels served Hitler, and the KGB served Stalin.
Just reading the title of the thread I knew it had to be the obsequious Rick Warren embracing champions of the abortion holocaust like the Rodham-rodent and Obama. Warren has zero spiritual discernment ... and for a man claiming to be a Pastor/teacher, that’s telling of the Spirit that is NOT in him.
As a human being, I would certainly think the same way. But as a Christian human being I'm careful with concluding or perhaps judging (which I certainly would prefer not to do) what a church is doing or the intentions of the Senior Pastor (Rick Warren). As you've said, God certainly knows the heart. And if He finds so much fault in it He will deal with it in many ways He alone is capable of. Perhaps not now but in the near future.