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Ron Paul on track to be biggest fundraiser (politico)
Politico ^ | 11/30/07 | Jeanne Cummings

Posted on 11/30/2007 9:07:21 AM PST by traviskicks

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To: svcw

If you want to make yourself look like a desperate fool suffering from Ron Paul Derangement Syndrome by claiming that independent expenditure contributions are actually in-kind contributions and that the campaign is breaking financing laws, that’s certainly your prerogative.


161 posted on 12/02/2007 2:06:34 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

Ok, well you got me because now I do not know what you are talking about.
I was talking about kind kind donations and you excoriated me over independent contributions.
I said you are a RP supporter and you say I have RP derangement syndrome.
You know what I may be a fool but at least not so foolish as to support RP.


162 posted on 12/02/2007 2:11:10 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: mvpel
I think George Soros and his minions who are spreading his money around find a kindred soul in Ron Paul. The American lunatics candidate.
163 posted on 12/02/2007 2:18:52 PM PST by mimaw
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To: svcw
Let's review...

First, the subject was people spending their own money and own time on supporting Ron Paul:

“Basically, nothing. He doesn’t need to spend money, except on traditional print and TV ads. All of his support is generated from the grassroots who spend their OWN money and their OWN time supporting Paul. Such support is worth millions, that other campaigns would die for.”

In other words, independent expenditure contributions. You then described these kinds of efforts as "in-kind:"

They spend their own money...in other words in kind donations - correct?
Which are still regulated by maximums. So are you saying RP is in violation of campaign finance laws?

An "in-kind donation" is if you give furniture, vehicles, office supplies, or the like to the campaign rather than money. You must report the value of these things, and they are still subject to the contribution limits.

On the other hand, independent expenditure contributions - people spending their own time and money in support of the candidate without direction from, consent of, or coordination with the campaign - are unlimited. Just as the amount of volunteer work that you can do directly or indirectly for the campaign is unlimited.

Just because I maxed out and donated $2,300 to the campaign doesn't mean that I am not allowed to paint a sign on some cardboard and stand on a street corner.

So in other words, NO, there is no violation of campaign finance laws.

164 posted on 12/02/2007 2:56:33 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: dcwusmc

‘What’s to be creative about? ‘

You inadvertently made my point. Thanks!

(chuckle)


165 posted on 12/03/2007 6:09:18 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Captain Kirk

Only a nutcase would compare Ron Paul, part time Republican, half time Libertarian, full time whacko, with Reagan.


166 posted on 12/03/2007 6:11:40 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye

Yeah, whatever... but what about the REST of my post? You wanna address THAT, please? Thanks in advance.


167 posted on 12/03/2007 7:28:38 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

What part?


168 posted on 12/04/2007 5:36:00 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye

This part: “Either you respect the Constitution - AS WRITTEN - as the supreme law of the land and shrink FedGov to fit it or you don’t. No creativity needed, just determination...”


169 posted on 12/04/2007 7:05:57 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

‘This part: “Either you respect the Constitution - AS WRITTEN - as the supreme law of the land and shrink FedGov to fit it or you don’t. No creativity needed, just determination...”’

I certainly do respect the Constitution.

Its the primary reason I’ve never asked for a shrimp subsidy.

I can’t find the word ‘shrimp’ nor the term ‘earmark’ anywhere in my copy of the Constitution.

Can you? Ron Paul apparently did, maybe he’s got ‘magic glasses’ eh?

(chuckle)


170 posted on 12/05/2007 5:23:35 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Designer
Your statement indicates you are severely out of touch with reality. Why on earth do you want to escalate a perfectly good argument about the neocons by inserting unwarranted anti-semitism into it?

It was a joke. I was making fun of the freepers who hide behind their large-government fetish by playing the race card.

171 posted on 12/05/2007 10:41:45 AM PST by jmc813 (#1 in the hood, G)
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To: jmc813
"It was a joke."

Oh

172 posted on 12/06/2007 8:26:06 AM PST by Designer
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