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To: garbanzo

The more I think about it, the more your pointless argument bothers me. Those who argue as you do will be the downfall of this country, not the ones holding it up.

The primary point of this lawsuit is to expose the financial backers of CAIR. If you bothered to understand what Savage is doing, your wouldn’t embarrass yourself with the defense of CAIR as you do.

CAIR was founded by terrorists who want to end our way of life. We are at war with them. You argue that they are mere political opponenents, deserving the very legal protections and court access that we all, as Americans, enjoy. I beg to differ.

They are enemies of this country who use our very courts to fight their war against us and those who go after our enemies. They fight to protect our enemies. They fight to bring down those who fight against our enemies.

When you follow the money trail, you may very well see that CAIR is funded by terrorist states today. It may never get that far, but it may get far enough to do damage.

If our politicians don’t have the guts to go after them more aggressively, then more power to Savage for using the courts to do so.

You argue for “facts” and “the rule of law.” Well, the courts were established to interpret the facts and the law, so what in prey tell are you actually protesting? You want to stop a lawsuit based on your own interpretation, which means you are arrogantly appointing yourself the judge and jury. Perhaps you are merely protesting a crowded docket that prevents you from filing more hot McDonald’s coffee or slip and fall accident lawsuits. Pretty important stuff there.

You really need to get real and recognize that we are in a fight for our survival as a nation. CAIR is one of the enemies, posturing as a Civil Rights organization. You are helping them, and might as well sign up to be the successor for their spokesperson that goes on the nightly news broadcasts to advance the same arguments you do. CAIR hides behind your type of thinking. They are the enemy within, using the very institutions that you want to prevent those who wish to fight them from using.

I doubt that you have argued as aggressively against CAIR’s own abuse of our legal system as you have against those using it to fight them.

Why might that be? I would suggest it is because you are primarily interested in hearing yourself spout utterly Sophomoric crap in order to boost your own ego and pat yourself on the back for your own perceived brilliance, not because you actually care about the actual things you take issue with.

You sound like today’s State Department. If people like you existed and had their way during WWII, we wouldn’t have convicted Nazi spies. We probably wouldn’t have dropped the bomb on Japan.


85 posted on 12/02/2007 2:05:32 AM PST by bluefish (I'm Hillaryphobing...)
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To: bluefish
The primary point of this lawsuit is to expose the financial backers of CAIR. If you bothered to understand what Savage is doing, your wouldn’t embarrass yourself with the defense of CAIR as you do.

This is probably my last contribution to this thread because you're probably not worth the effort here but as I said before the point of the civil law system isn't to force discovery of groups you don't like. Given that our legal system is a precedent-based common-law system, legal precedents obviously matter and when comes back to bite us in the rear don't say you weren't warned or cry about the unfairness of the legal system.

As far the "war for survival" stuff is concerned - if you feel it right to misuse the legal system - then why not have the Constitution and the rule of law suspended altogether?

87 posted on 12/02/2007 1:10:46 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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