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Ron Paul's "noninterventionism" fraud
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Posted on 12/01/2007 7:52:54 AM PST by mnehring

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To: Darksheare
Then why does he accept donations from the latter, and why has he been on Alex Jones show not once but twice?

The piddly $500 dollars Dr. Paul received from Don Black will be used to promote HIS agenda, not BLACK'S. Paul is not going to be your organ-grinder monkey apologizing like George Allen.

Alex Jones is a syndicated national radio host just like Savage and Rush are.

61 posted on 12/01/2007 9:21:40 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And? Did I say anything differently about his supporters? No.

My point still stands. That’s why I said it was sad, because I think Ron Paul deserves more support from actual libertarians and people that have been republicans longer than 2 months, instead of conspiracy nutjobs, anti-war libs, and stormfronters.


62 posted on 12/01/2007 9:22:02 AM PST by Tears of a Clown
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Why, when there are so many apologists on your side. Go cry me a river. You are against the WOT as is your candidate Harpy, so you can get lost. She may even lose the primaries, then where will you be??

Pray for W and Our Amazing Troops


63 posted on 12/01/2007 9:22:08 AM PST by bray (Let's Bring Christ Back to Christmas)
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To: Darksheare
He also appeared on Bill O'Reilly. I guess, according to your theory, that means that Paul agrees with him and O'Reilly with him.

By the way, since you think that candidates should screen every single donation, do you apply the same standard to Rudy who had a kiss up press conference with Pat Robertson, who has explicitly stated that America was to blame for 911? Do you also condemn Huck who said in the last debate that he will be happy to accept support for anyone?

64 posted on 12/01/2007 9:22:13 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Piddly?
Ah yes, the silly explanations begin.
To accept the money is to condone the behavior.

Alex Jones is a troofer moonbat, and any serious candidate does not, has not, and will not appear on that moonbat show.

Any other silly explanations?


65 posted on 12/01/2007 9:23:24 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: MNJohnnie
I know this comes as a terrible shock to you but you really have utterly no clue what you are talking about when it comes to matter economic or political.

This is where you explain that the Saudi Arabian government didn't invest any money at all to prop up Citibank. And that Haliburton didn't move it;s headquarters to Dubai. You call me clueless? LOLOLOL!
66 posted on 12/01/2007 9:24:37 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: billbears
And here's another shocker for you. I think for myself. I decide who I choose to vote for not by their label but by what they say and if I agree with it. I know this is a foreign concept to the 'faithful' but there it is

Independent thought is a rarity around here. God bless you.

67 posted on 12/01/2007 9:24:49 AM PST by incindiary
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To: canuck_conservative; All
Oh brother...

Our success in the ME is really rattling you guys cage...

68 posted on 12/01/2007 9:24:50 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Captain Kirk

And the paulbots gather..

Tell you the truth, Guiliani hasn’t a snowball’s chance either.

Now, I don’t see the Roootybots being nasty on every single forum they can spam monkey, nor the Robertsonbots claiming a single day donation ‘record’ (that was invalid due to that amount being beaten earlier in the year) makes their guy so uber it hurts, and as for Huck, who cares because in your view, it’s okay to get support from the Fronters and go on the moonbat show repeatedly.


69 posted on 12/01/2007 9:26:34 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: ejonesie22
The Democrats, Ron Surrender Monkey Paul and his followers, the laughing stock of FR, are going to be marginalized even more and listened to less with our success in Iraq. We see the writing on the wall, yet they are too stupid to get off the track with the train barreling down on them.
70 posted on 12/01/2007 9:29:00 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: mnehrling
According to this pro-choice, anti-borders, don't-equate-less-government-with-more-liberty philosopher, "we", being AMERICA (meaning the American government) should be able to do whatever the hell "we" want to do abroad without expecting any consequences directed back towards us whatever.

Given that, I recommend we nuke Bejing. Surely there will be no consequences because "we" are the American government AMERICA! Anyone who ever disagrees with the government the government is a traitor. The government AMERICA is always right and whatever it does is 110% just! Yay! I feel so safe now!
71 posted on 12/01/2007 9:29:24 AM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: samtheman
Yeah, it would be speaking mostly German in the Western hemisphere and under the rising sun in the Eastern.
72 posted on 12/01/2007 9:30:04 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: marsh_of_mists

Now that’s a jump of hyperbole.


73 posted on 12/01/2007 9:30:09 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: mnehrling

Kind of a sloppy argument. I agree with RP’s first paragraph, quoted above. I do not always agree with the conclusions he draws from this fact.

As for the history of the US and Brits being justified in acting in Iran to recoup a “taking” through nationalization, this argument is persuasive but dangerous in that it may also justify the Arab/Palestinian cause vis-vis the establish of modern Israel.


74 posted on 12/01/2007 9:30:12 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: Captain Kirk

‘Selective????? Washington warned about permanent alliances in that speech. Why did you “selectively” leave out that part?’

‘It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.’ George Washington

I reiterate, that Ron Paul and many of his supporters have a selective memory about what George Washington actually said.


75 posted on 12/01/2007 9:30:44 AM PST by devere
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To: billbears
Of course if Dr. Paul had been President in 1916 we wouldn't have interfered in WWI in a campaign to 'spread democracy' laying the seeds for WWII....oh never mind, I keep forgetting 'conservative' history stops at WWII and Hitler. It's okay to play what ifs with WWII but not with WWI. Because if we play what ifs with WWI, the 'conservative' argument for interventionism falls apart.

Don't stop there -- we wait with bated breath for you to re-write history for us and tell us that the whole world would be aglow in golden peace if the US had let the Kaiser win. Show us.

76 posted on 12/01/2007 9:31:43 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: Tears of a Clown
That’s why I said it was sad, because I think Ron Paul deserves more support from actual libertarians and people that have been republicans longer than 2 months, instead of conspiracy nutjobs, anti-war libs, and stormfronters.

Nice spin. You clearly stated that you assumed Paul's supporters were all Pinkos and Truthers and you acknowledged that Paul was being unfairly maligned. Now on this thread, you go right back to calling his supporters "Truthers/racists."

You got caught in a lie, OK?

77 posted on 12/01/2007 9:33:06 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: bray
You're the one that called Canadians "cowards," when they've been one of our staunchest allies.

You have no appreciation of the troops who've assisted the U.S. in the WOT. Go back to your Halo 3 game, chump.

78 posted on 12/01/2007 9:35:30 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Darksheare

You're evading the question.... Let me ask another way. A simple yes or no would be fine. Will you vow now that you won't vote for Rudy (if nominated) who appeared in a kiss up press conference with a man who says that Americans were to blame for 911?

79 posted on 12/01/2007 9:36:06 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

No, read it again.
I answered your question.
You don’t like the answer.


80 posted on 12/01/2007 9:36:46 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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