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Ayan Hirsi Ali said it the other day: We are at war with Islam. Any act, no matter how morally repugnant, is defensible, even praisworthy, to Muslims if it is done in the name of their debased and burned-out god. There is no common ground with Islam, and there can be none. It is now kill or be killed.
1 posted on 12/01/2007 12:13:07 PM PST by mojito
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The editorial is of course by the Editors, not the “Editirs.”
2 posted on 12/01/2007 12:14:13 PM PST by mojito
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Teddy Bear Case Exposes Failure of American Feminist Leaders

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933163/posts

NOW and others are hiding from this issue too.

3 posted on 12/01/2007 12:19:16 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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Is it any wonder almost half of Americans believe Islam is more likely than other religions to encourage violence against nonbelievers?

It is a sad commentary on American intelligence that only about half the country understands Islam is violent. It preaches violence. It rewards violence. It only survives where freedom is destroyed.

4 posted on 12/01/2007 12:21:36 PM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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Is it any wonder almost half of Americans believe Islam is more likely than other religions to encourage violence against nonbelievers?

I guess 50% of the country connects all of the killing that Muslims do in the name of Islam, and the childish justification they give for it with "violence". The other 50% will have their heads cut off before they give in to the politically incorrect notion that Muslims are any more violent than the Amish.

5 posted on 12/01/2007 12:29:21 PM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people. Socialist nannies do not become us.)
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The muslims in the US appear to be moderate, but make no mistake, if they were a majority here, we’d have sharia law and I’ll give you a few guesses as to how they would treat infidels, women and other religions here.


6 posted on 12/01/2007 12:30:46 PM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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This so called religion of peace only has one reputation, one of death, submission, rape, and conquest.

I really don’t think that reputation is at stake.


7 posted on 12/01/2007 12:32:40 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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In truth, plenty of Muslims do not agree with the horrid treatment of this teacher. The author of this story should have done a little checking. It took me two seconds to pull these up.

The Muslim Canadian Congress is organizing a teddy bear mail-in to protest Sudan’s imprisonment of Gillian Gibbons, a British schoolteacher.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=136705

Multiple Muslim groups in the U.K. have condemned the sentence. Even the popular little boy in Mrs. Gibbons’ class who suggested the name for the bear came to her defense, explaining that he named the bear after himself.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314401,00.html


8 posted on 12/01/2007 12:37:25 PM PST by PFC
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What would it mean if CAIR said all the right words?


9 posted on 12/01/2007 12:38:16 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,2794,00.html
religion of pieces


10 posted on 12/01/2007 12:47:28 PM PST by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks (boat steersman ) hell)
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Is it any wonder almost half of Americans believe Islam is more likely than other religions to encourage violence against nonbelievers?

Considering that this is an empirical fact, it is a wonder that the vast majority of Americans (and everybody else) doesn't recognize it.

11 posted on 12/01/2007 12:50:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Is it any wonder almost half of Americans believe Islam is more likely than other religions to encourage violence against nonbelievers?

Yes, it's a wonder. Less than half? I'm disappointed it isn't close to 100%.

13 posted on 12/01/2007 12:55:10 PM PST by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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Many males in Mexico are named Jesus.

And they ain’t teddy bears.


14 posted on 12/01/2007 12:57:30 PM PST by Fishtalk (If you liked the above post, remember I've got a Blog you might like to visit.)
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'A Religion's Reputation at Stake'...

err... That train left the station a long time ago.

Now the only question is that now that we 'understand' enough about this 'cult' -- what do we do about it?

15 posted on 12/01/2007 12:57:53 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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It is a mistake to think that CAIR represents "moderate" Islam. Far from it. It is an advocacy group perfectly willing to embrace radicals since radicals tend to advance the cause faster than moderates do. Such organizations tend to be made up of activists, and activists tend to be radicals themselves, and not only with regard to Islam, as a cursory glance at Greenpeace and PETA reveals.

Are there Muslims who regard the depredations of the radicals with horror and disgust? Of course there are - I know a half dozen or so. CAIR doesn't want to know them. They aren't useful enough.

17 posted on 12/01/2007 1:20:51 PM PST by Billthedrill
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What of all the British parents who’ve named their spawn Mohammed this year! Seems the crazed mobs aren’t doing their job! Beatings should be scheduled for weekends, so that parents can be stoned and not miss work!


20 posted on 12/01/2007 1:40:17 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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A Religion's Reputation At Stake

Not really. Islam's well-deserved reputation for inhumanity and savagery would be hardpressed to get much worse. This latest incident is just one of countless similar ones.

24 posted on 12/01/2007 2:24:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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I’d like to hear from Rick Warren and his slew of evangelical “leaders” who have been cozying up to the Muslims. Surely, this incident with this poor teacher is worthy of comment and condemnation.


25 posted on 12/01/2007 2:42:37 PM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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Muslim denial thrives in the absence of reformation.

That is, violent, evil Islam can get away with this nonsense because no one has ever created a written reformist doctrine to contrast with violent, evil Islam.

If someone, anyone were to create a reform version of Islam, then the debate would change. It would make being Muslim an either/or proposition.

When a Muslim would scream that “Islam is the religion of peace!”, they would immediately be accused by non-Muslims of being a “reform Muslim”. Which they would then deny.

But then, the non-Muslims would say, only reform Muslims embrace peace. So either you are lying, or you are a reform Muslim. Orthodox Muslims are violent and evil. So are you violent and evil, or are you a reform Muslim?

This would help to create an inherent schism in Islam. Unless Muslims embraced the doctrines of reform Islam, then they could be condemned as violent and evil, precisely *because* they were not reform Muslims.

In turn, this would kill much of the lying and hypocrisy, because they would be afraid to lie, lest they be accused of being a reformist.

As far as the reformist doctrines themselves, they would turn existing doctrines on their ear. Mohammed would be said to have NEVER embraced or endorsed war or violence, because he was a pacifist. And women have equal rights in all ways with men, and can dress any way they want. And pork is fine to eat as well. Dogs make good pets, and should be treated kindly. Non-Muslims are just as good as Muslims, and should never be treated unfairly. Jews are the friends of Muslims.


26 posted on 12/01/2007 3:04:18 PM PST by Popocatapetl
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Ayan Hirsi Ali said it the other day: We are at war with Islam. Any act, no matter how morally repugnant, is defensible, even praisworthy, to Muslims if it is done in the name of their debased and burned-out god.

Even worse than what you say - the bear was named after the prophet, not the god. When they do it to defend their god, I find it amusing that they think so little of the god that it needs humans (I use the term "humans" loosely) to defend it.

27 posted on 12/01/2007 3:09:12 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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Thousands of Sudanese brandishing machetes and clubs demanded the woman's execution. "Kill her, kill her," one large group chanted as they piled out of a mosque.

These are the "moderate" Muslims.
The radical Muslims are out there killing not chanting about it.

28 posted on 12/01/2007 3:09:34 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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