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List soars of those called too unstable to buy a gun
LA Times ^ | November 30, 2007

Posted on 12/02/2007 11:40:18 AM PST by Zakeet

WASHINGTON -- Since the Virginia Tech shootings last spring, the FBI has more than doubled the number of people nationwide who are prohibited from buying guns because of mental health problems, the Justice Department said Thursday.

Justice officials said the FBI's Mental Defective File has ballooned from 175,000 names in June to nearly 400,000, primarily additions from California. The names are listed in a subset of a database that gun dealers are supposed to check before completing their sales.

The surge in names underscores the vastness of the gap in FBI records that allowed Seung-hui Cho to purchase the handguns he used in April to kill 32 people and himself at the Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg.

A Virginia court found Cho to be dangerously mentally ill in 2005 and ordered him to receive outpatient treatment. But because Cho was not ordered into hospital treatment, the court's order was never provided to the FBI and incorporated in its database, which two gun dealers checked before selling Cho the 9-millimeter Glock 19 and Walther .22-caliber pistol used in the shootings.

Federal law has prohibited gun sales to people judged to be "mentally defective" for nearly four decades, but enforcementhas been haphazard.

A 1995 U.S. Supreme Court ruling barred the federal government from forcing states to provide the data, and 18 states -- including Delaware and West Virginia -- provide no mental health-related information to the FBI.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; backgroundcheck; banglist; cho; guncontrol; guns; orwell; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Scotsman will be Free
In my state you have to be convicted, not just accused, of DV to lose your 2nd amendment rights.

No matter what state you are in, it's a federal matter. And just having a DV restraining order is enough, even a routine RO issued as part of a divorce or separation agreement. Ask poor Doc Emerson.

41 posted on 12/02/2007 2:37:54 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Squantos; humblegunner
Ok .....it must have been those 4 years he spent in 3rd grade that got him on the list !

No, that was Humblegunner. That and his pathology involving midgets.

42 posted on 12/02/2007 2:40:30 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Eaker; humblegunner
It was 3 years in the 4th grade ya numbskull!

Ah, I Knew it was HG who did the 4 years in 3rd grade thing.

43 posted on 12/02/2007 2:41:47 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

no then you have to PROVE you are sane.

of course the government will say no SANE person will want to own a gun. so if you want a gun you are too insane to own one


44 posted on 12/02/2007 2:42:40 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: El Gato; Squantos; Eaker
That and his pathology involving midgets.

My midgets are legal.

Come and take 'em, I say.

45 posted on 12/02/2007 2:42:46 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: Texas Eagle
A roundup of Gallup health polls over the past four years finds that Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to report having excellent mental health.

Oh No! That's part of the pathology. Republicans just report being mentally healthy, but in reality they are sick twisted puppies.[/s

Especially most Republican US Senators, who seem to have been born with no testicles.

But of course that's probably no worse than many DemonRats, especially a recent President of that persuasion, who think with theirs.

46 posted on 12/02/2007 2:45:33 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jim35
And they can all go home, if there’s anyone who’ll accept them.

Which is of course the problem right there. They shouldn't be let out of an institution, but home they go. All so some welfare queen can continue to get her check.

47 posted on 12/02/2007 2:48:09 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: humblegunner
Come and take 'em, I say.

I don't want no steenking midgets, that's your "thing"

....

Other than the matched set of 4 week olds I'm helping with now that is. My identical twin granddaughters. Kathryn and Elizabeth. Their big sister Victoria, 2 1/2, isn't likely to get much bigger than a midget either.

48 posted on 12/02/2007 2:52:40 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Zakeet

The surge in names underscores the vastness of the gap in FBI records...


Either that or it closes the gap.


49 posted on 12/02/2007 3:27:39 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Zakeet

If Mrs Clinton is elected or steels the election, anyone who ever criticized her or claimed she is a murderer will be on so many lists they will find it hard to live.
Backed by the f.b.i.


50 posted on 12/02/2007 3:29:14 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Zakeet

Just a note on grammar: perhaps the number of ineligible people soars or skyrockets, or perhaps the list blossoms or balloons, but no, the list does not soar.

It sounds like some kind of magic carpet document climbing into the sky like a great bird.


51 posted on 12/02/2007 3:31:26 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: Beelzebubba

But most of the names come from the land of fruits and nuts. QED!
barbra ann


52 posted on 12/02/2007 3:43:25 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: Eaker

LMAO !.......Doh !


53 posted on 12/02/2007 4:14:35 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: El Gato

LOL.....great thread . All in true form this afternoon !

Nite !


54 posted on 12/02/2007 4:17:19 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: El Gato

“They shouldn’t be let out of an institution, but home they go. All so some welfare queen can continue to get her check.”

No, they shouldn’t. Chalk it up to compassionate liberals, ACLU types, who are just looking out for the rights of the mentally ill. Like the right to starve on the street, be the subject of numerous crimes (either as victim or perp), become hoplessly addicted to drugs and alcohol, and sleep in cardboard boxes.


55 posted on 12/02/2007 5:43:46 PM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: Petronski
t sounds like some kind of magic carpet document climbing into the sky like a great bird.

LOL!

56 posted on 12/02/2007 8:42:46 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Zakeet

bmflr

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo


57 posted on 12/02/2007 11:35:47 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Poison Pill

Yeah, give everyone the right to carry a weapon. Even kooks.

That way if a kook wants to shoot someone, everyone can be armed. If they aren’t then, they made a mistake.


58 posted on 12/03/2007 8:02:20 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

“Yeah, give everyone the right to carry a weapon.”

Who’s doing the giving?


59 posted on 12/03/2007 10:36:09 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

I dunno. I was hoping the government would do it. :)


60 posted on 12/03/2007 10:41:17 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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