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E*Trade firesale seen hurting Wall St portfolios
Reuters ^ | Fri Nov 30, 2007 | Tim McLaughlin

Posted on 12/02/2007 12:01:36 PM PST by hripka

NEW YORK (Reuters) - E*Trade Financial Corp's (ETFC) firesale of mortgage-backed securities has conjured up a new worst-case scenario for Wall Street's portfolio of subprime assets by knocking their value even lower.

Financial analysts on Friday said E*Trade got anywhere from 11 cents to 27 cents on the dollar for its $3.1 billion portfolio of asset-backed securities. The portfolio sale was part of a $2.5 billion capital infusion from a group led by hedge fund Citadel investment Group.

"The portfolio sale, one of the few observable trades of such assets, has very clear, generally negative, implications for the valuation of like assets on brokers' balance sheets," Credit Suisse analyst Susan Roth Katzke said.

The portfolios are hard to value because demand has dried up for them and the brokerages sometimes use their own models to put a value on the assets. Any rare actual transaction could have an effect on other brokerages' valuations.

Using what she called a simplistic analysis, Katzke estimated Merrill Lynch & Co Inc (MER) could take a $9 billion after-tax hit to the valuation of assets underpinned by subprime mortgages. That estimate assumes the Merrill assets would be marked down to 26 cents on the dollar.

Katzke's write-downs reflect amounts that are incremental to charges taken in the third quarter. She estimated that Citigroup's (C) after-tax write-down could be $26 billion, if the assets were marked down to 26 cents on the dollar.

"Our analysis is far from perfect," Katzke said. "That said, it's our best take on a worst case scenario for valuation of like securities. ... Not all brokers are equal."

Merrill declined to comment. Before the E*Trade deal, analysts had already forecast huge write-downs at Merrill, with some estimates topping $13 billion. Katzke estimates Citigroup will take a write-down of up to $12 billion in the fourth quarter.

Merrill already recorded an $8.4 billion write-down in the third quarter, mostly because it reduced the value of subprime-related assets.

Goldman Sachs analysts said they were surprised by the size of the discount on the E*Trade portfolio because 73 percent of the assets were backed by prime mortgages, or loans to people with solid credit.

In contrast, Wall Street brokerages have taken billions of dollars of write-downs on assets underpinned by subprime mortgages. Escalating defaults on these loans to people with weak credit have roiled credit markets worldwide.

Citigroup investment bank analyst Prashant Bhatia said E*Trade actually received 11 cents on the dollar for its portfolio, if you factor in that the brokerage received $800 million in cash minus 85 million shares it issued. He said that implies Citadel's received stock compensation worth about $450 million, leaving E*Trade with only $350 million for its $3.1 billion portfolio.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: citigroup; etrade; mortgage; stocks; subprime; wallstreet
Assets on sale - CHEAP!
1 posted on 12/02/2007 12:01:38 PM PST by hripka
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To: hripka

And check out the Citigroup tie-in.


2 posted on 12/02/2007 12:10:10 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Should be the Eek*Trade


3 posted on 12/02/2007 12:11:44 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: hripka
Too bad I don't have a $pare billion. that's a pretty good deal. Even if 1/3 of those loans fail, I could still make a tidy prophet on those that do pay up, and have a lot of siezed assets to sell off, which I could devalue and still make a damn good buck on.
4 posted on 12/02/2007 12:20:04 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Who is the loser on your good fortune? E-Trade and its investors.

Be careful of being too vulture-ish. That bird may bite.

5 posted on 12/02/2007 12:36:35 PM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: hripka
Goldman Sachs analysts said they were surprised by the size of the discount on the E*Trade portfolio because 73 percent of the assets were backed by prime mortgages, or loans to people with solid credit.

Not only that but 80% of subprime loans are current. Somebody is getting a bargain.

6 posted on 12/02/2007 12:38:41 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

“Even if 1/3 of those loans fail, I could still make a tidy prophet on those that do pay up, and have a lot of siezed assets to sell off, which I could devalue and still make a damn good buck on.”

Depends entirely on the tranche they held. For many, a default on say 10% of loans means their paper would be worthless.


7 posted on 12/02/2007 12:59:37 PM PST by DemEater
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To: Moonman62
OR the portfolio is worst than thought. It could be so convoluted that they don’t have full title to the assets. Only a few in the know the tangled web they weaved.
8 posted on 12/02/2007 4:25:26 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Gondring
And check out the Citigroup tie-in.

Indeed. I was late for the drop from 50+ to these low 30's, but if I get a chance again in the $37 area I'll be jumping at it.

9 posted on 12/02/2007 7:44:17 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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