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Senator Craig: 'Latest allegations are completely false'
KTVB.com ^ | 12/2/07 | Ysabel Bilbao

Posted on 12/02/2007 6:41:57 PM PST by freespirited

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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

The emotional response applies to anyone who makes a decision based on one small piece of the body of evidence then does not bother to examine at the rest. I have both read the transcripts and heard the interview, as well as read the police report, the police complaint, Larry Craig’s guilty plea, and the particulars surrounding the case. But the interview is just a small part of the evidence.

For example, you have decided the police officer is lying because Larry Craig says his wedding ring is not on the hand he says he reached down with. You think the proof is that his wedding ring is on the left hand but since he says he reached down with the right hand the cop must be lying when he says he saw a wedding ring. You do know that there are pictures of the Senator with his wedding ring on the right hand. There could be innocent reasons for switching your ring to the right hand but I’ve never done it. In any case, it is not as clear cut as you think, there is not enough evidence to support your mistrust of what the police reported. Larry Craig could be lying and given the fact that he has switched hands before, he has consistently lied before and that he has the most obvious reason to lie, I would not make that observation the main point of determining the facts in this situation. Especially since there is so much other evidence against him that has nothing to do with the interview you mentioned.

That you continue to repeat that Craig “used the bathroom as it was intended to be used” runs contrary to Larry Craig’s own admission. Your continuing to repeat it is how I knew you had not seen all the evidence.

The extra information I have is Larry Craig’s own admission of guilt, found in the court documents. By that very admission of guilt, his lack of telling anyone about the situation, his lack disputing the case at all until he found he could lose his senate seat, his lack of an innocent person’s behavior plus the information in the interview, and police report, I could make a more informed judgment.

Anyone who makes a decision based on a small part of the evidence is not showing a desire to know the truth. You have already judged the situation based only on a piece of the facts. If a jury did that, most people would say the jury was acting unfairly. There is nothing logical about it. I can only assume it must be an emotional decision.

I was not trying to offend you. I was just trying to understand how you could possibly come to your conclusion. Though you have been here longer than I have, don’t let my sign up date fool you. I lurked for a long time before I signed up to post, hence my screen name. Even then, as wary as I was, I still had a run in with A+bert.

When this Craig situation became known, I posted time and again all the links. But that was a while ago. They are no longer at hand. If you are serious about knowing the facts, do an internet search for smoking gun and Larry Craig. I’m sure you’ll be able to find the court documents then.


81 posted on 12/05/2007 6:48:25 AM PST by Waryone (Constantly amazed by society's downhill slide.)
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To: Waryone
I had previously read all that I found at:

Slate in the article there with its links.

I went to the Smoking Gun information page and went through the links and I have seen all of that information before also.

It was nice to see again, however, the officer's report stating clearly THAT DAY's response of Senator Craig especially regarding the alleged wedding ring on the hand that moved under the stall wall from front to back of the stall...allegedly 3 times.

Read about it Here.

Now I did experience some "emotion" while rereading the accounts of the Senator's accusations and subsequent actions as I did my investigative search for these documents of what horrors this Senator committed.

I very much enjoyed reading ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and other drive by media outlets gleeful report that Senator Craig would be resigning......and yet, to their utter dismay, he is still there!!! I have to admit that was an emotional reaction - one of pure enjoyment!

Too bad for the Dimwits that Senator Craig is STILL in the Senate, STILL casting conservative Republican votes on all the issues, STILL standing so strong for Christiand and prolife and promarriage issues that he has 100% positive rating by at least one Christian conservative group and an 86% positive rating by at least one conservative group.

They keep trying though....with their allies in the gay mafia groups who despise the Senator (even though, allegedly, he is one of theirs!!!! How can that be???)

The Demonrat Marxists despise him because they know he is NOT on their anti-American, anti-Judeo-Christian values, anti-traditional family, anti-freedom, pro-Marxist,pro-destroy America as we have known it- train!

Good for Senator Craig! I say, keep fighting, Senator! Like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas whose reputation was attempted to be smeared into oblivion by the same cadres....using a "high tech lynching" maneuver and a pure baldfaced liar named Anita Hill.....your name and your reputation have already been smeared.....don't let them force you out of your post. America NEEDS YOU NOW!

Oh hey I did get a bit emotional there at the end of that rant....will try to do better next time.

82 posted on 12/05/2007 7:15:12 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Waryone

OH meant to say - end of comments by me on this thread now. On to other matters.


83 posted on 12/05/2007 7:17:13 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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