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To: Max in Utah
I hated them passionately. Forty years later I still feel like spitting when I visualize their faces. Grrrr!

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Thankfully, humans are resilient. Most do overcome their abusive institutional school experiences.

But,,,,shouldn’t we look at the system and recognize that it is abnormal to institutionalize children the way we do in prison-like settings?

11 posted on 12/03/2007 3:02:09 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
But,,,,shouldn’t we look at the system and recognize that it is abnormal to institutionalize children the way we do in prison-like settings?

Yes, but I can't at the moment think of how else we'd do it. Do you have any practical suggestions about changing the public school system?

20 posted on 12/03/2007 3:09:10 PM PST by Max in Utah (If your neighbors habitually trespassed, wouldn't you want a nice tall fence with razor wire on top?)
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To: wintertime; metmom

I had an alcoholic math teacher who reaked of cigarettes and black berry brandy. It wasn’t until I was a working behind a bar years later did I recognize the smell.
She would put students under her desk and kick them if they did not understand a lesson or if she deemed they needed ‘ discipline ‘. She would grab the edge of your desk and scream in your face, spittle foaming at the mouth if you did not understand the lesson. She would grab you by the hair and pull you to the chalkboard. Kids pissed thier pants in fear, cried, and me? Often I would be phyically ill before class out of shear terror and end up in the nurses office.
I was in the fourth grade.


61 posted on 12/03/2007 4:59:52 PM PST by warsaw44
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