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To: Amelia; SoftballMominVA; JenB; metmom

Almost daily, I holler at my kids. Most of my kids know me that if I *stop* screaming and hollering, there is a problem. Why do I do this? Passion mostly, and it gets their attention.

Berate them? I have. When they don’t do as well as they should on a test, or they fail to give me what I know they are capable of, yes. Oh, and I have the test scores to back up what I do in class.:) One thing that all of my kids will tell you is they would love to have me again.

This 45%, I am sure takes into account the vicious private Church run schools with the famous nuns who would beat children for anything...there is a point in a public school where even tenure will not protect a teacher, but not so in a private school, especially a Catholic school. Oh, and my mother attended a private Catholic school, and saw said abuse firsthand, way more extreme than anything in a public school.

Again, as I have said before, if I had unlimited time to scour the internet looking for articles to bash someone’s profession, I am quite certain I could do that, but I have better things to do with my time. I have a classroom full of students who need some TLC.


80 posted on 12/04/2007 3:23:29 AM PST by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est)
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To: shag377

There’s a difference between a chewing out and ridicule. To say in front of the class, “ Oh, this paper is stupid. I can’t believe you picked a topic like this. Can you believe it? “ and laugh while you say it. That’s wrong.

The problem was, he gave us the option of picking the topic. We could write on anything we wanted to; anything that interested us. And to then go and do something like that? That goes deep when someone publicly ridicules you over something that means something to you.

You can’t tell me there’s not better ways of handling a matter than that. Speaking to a student about the quality or type of work privately would go lots further.


82 posted on 12/04/2007 4:57:24 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: shag377
Having taught in public schools for 6 years and now at a college, some kids need some bullying. It’s got to be in your bag of tricks for the kids that a: respond to it and get better or b: are not going to get better (in your class anyways) and shuts them up so the rest of the class could learn.

Had a kid who wouldn’t do a simple task I ASKED him to do. After twice reminding him not to do it (it was minor), TOLD him if he does it again, he’s going to the office for insubordination. He did it again, almost had to get the cops to help me get him to the office, on the way down he told me I needed to know who ran this school. I bowed up, chest bumped him, got in his face and in no uncertain terms told him who ran the school (without cursing) and continued to take him to the office. Promptly suspended and not that much trouble rest of year until he dropped.

I bullied this kid into acting better. It worked. And the rest of class never gave me problems again (me bullying the bully). BTW, he was a school due to a court mandate from drug possession and other crimes found out later.

Bullying can work as a teacher if done right and used judiciously. Survival of the fittest at times. And the borderline kids want no part with a teacher that will humiliate them for stupidity. Note I said stupidity, not ignorance. Stupid should hurt.

93 posted on 12/04/2007 5:30:57 AM PST by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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