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Ron Paul camp gears up for 'Tea Party,' one supporter speaks out
US News via Monsters & Critics ^ | Dec. 04, 2007 | By April MacIntyre

Posted on 12/03/2007 8:05:44 PM PST by jdm

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To: jmc813; jimrob
Pat Buchanan had his brigadiers on FR too.

Including the owner of this site.

Courtesy Ping

61 posted on 12/04/2007 11:00:23 AM PST by mnehring
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To: incindiary
Nice try, but you're adding things on there. Go back and read higgmeister's post, and what he was responding to. Paul mentioned the term military industrial complex (among other things) which higgmeister called "paranoid moonbat talk."

The term "military-industril complex" has been 99.999999999% the province of paranoid blame-America moonbats for at least the last 30 years. Ron Paul is not only one of those paranoid blame-America moonbats, he has specifically aided the enemy in wartime. No parsing on your part is going to change those things.

62 posted on 12/04/2007 11:03:27 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: mosquitobite; ejonesie22
You can disagree with Dr Paul on the war all you want, but at least admit the man is the only politician in Washington to NEVER TAKE MONEY FROM A LOBBYIST!

Really? You may want to talk to the US Shrimp Farming Industry before you proclaim that.

63 posted on 12/04/2007 11:06:00 AM PST by mnehring
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To: D-fendr
In defense of Buchanan, our intervention in the age-old ethnic and religious feuds in former Yugoslavia was entirely mistaken. The United States had no compelling interest, either strategic or economic, to intervene there. The net result of our intervention has been to expand the toehold Muslims have in southeast Europe, with Bosnia and Kosovo in all but name added to the Islamic realm. Pat Buchanan was correct in pointing out the folly of the Clinton Administration. The Middle East is an entirely different matter due to the huge oil and gas reserves of the region and its strategic position in the world's sea lanes. The United States is the successor state to Britain in the "Great Game" the latter power waged with Russia and the Islamic states.

What worked for a mostly agrarian republic in the age of wooden ships and currently work for nations like Switzerland is not applicable to this nation in this era. While we must pick our stands well (unlike the Clinton Administration's involvement in ex-Yugoslavia), and when we fight, we must have a plan for victory (a serious flaw in the Bush Administration's pre-Petraeus handling of Iraq), the United States cannot be a neutral power due to our very size and the malevolent nature of our rivals, from the Nazis and the Japanese through the Communists, to the Muslim jihadists, the Russians and the Chinese today. I suspect that George Washington and Thomas jefferson would agree if they were around today, rather than two centuries ago.

64 posted on 12/04/2007 11:08:43 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: incindiary; oldfart; MinnesotaLibertarian
So, I suppose Eisenhower was a maroon for mentioning the military industrial complex?

And if you think the media isn't biased, then the maroon here definitely isn't Paul.

No, linking such disparate entities as water-boarders, The Fed, the Vestigial Media, etc. in a sentence that implies he is being persecuted by them is paranoid.

While each of those entities exist, Ron Paul is as significant as a bump on a Gnats butt to any of them.

Ron Paul, how about admitting that you are just as delusional about Radical Islam as Neville Chamberlain was about Herr Hitler in 1938!?

Chamberlain thought that Hitler was "acting out" because of the poor treatment Germany had received from the Allies after WWI. He thought he could appease Hitler by making overtures and concessions to Germany and Italy. The result was Anschluss, Lebensraum and Blitzkrieg.

Ron Paul thinks Radical Islam is "acting out" because of the poor treatment Arabia has received from the United States and its Allies after WWII and The Gulf War. The Result of a Ron Paul Administration would be just as horrendous as was Chamberlain's government.

65 posted on 12/04/2007 11:13:13 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: D-fendr; John D
"a Blame America Firster."

"anti-American enough for a blame America first coward like cut and run."

Use your noodle. You are making "America" synonymous with foreign policy. The implication there is that ANY foreign policy that America goes by is automatically right. By that "logic", anyone who criticized Clinton's foreign policy was "blaming America first", since to you, evidently, America is synonymous with foreign policy. Can a foreign policy EVER be wrong or immoral? Can a foreign policy ever go against our constitution or principles that we are supposed to believe in?

If the answer is yes, then stop with the moronic and deceptive use of phrases like "Blame America" and recognize that disagreeing with a foreign policy is not anti-American because a particular foreign policy is not synonymous with America. In fact, if the foreign policy itself is unconstitutional and bad for America, then what would be anti-American is cheering for it. Btw, this was discussed here as well: Click

66 posted on 12/04/2007 11:34:23 AM PST by incindiary
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To: mosquitobite
I just don't see how Paul can win a GOP presidential primary with so many anti-constitution, big-government Republicans casting votes.

Sadly, you may be right. But let's hope they surprise us.

67 posted on 12/04/2007 11:40:05 AM PST by incindiary
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To: SJackson

He never said they were colluding. He said they were all opposed to him. That means that each group or institution is, for its own reasons, opposed to his candidacy. As I stated in my previous post, there are logical reasons for each one. There’s no conspiracy, and he’s not claiming there is one. He’s simply saying that there’s a lot of negative, powerful forces that don’t want him to win.


68 posted on 12/04/2007 11:44:13 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: KDD
Your editorial comments concerning the number of Freepers who supported the opinions that you presented are not supported by any facts!

Therefore, if I simply disregard those assertions, the remainder of your screed is selected (cherry-picked) quotes that happen to support your opinions.

By the way, why is Ron Paul, a Libertarian, running on the Republican ticket?

69 posted on 12/04/2007 11:44:50 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
He never said they were colluding. He said they were all opposed to him. That means that each group or institution is, for its own reasons, opposed to his candidacy. As I stated in my previous post, there are logical reasons for each one. There’s no conspiracy, and he’s not claiming there is one. He’s simply saying that there’s a lot of negative, powerful forces that don’t want him to win.

Right, they oppose him independently, the administration and nation having already been hijacked by the neocons.

And But every good American is applauding us, and daring to hope for a better future. isn't a slap at those not applauding him as non-American.

70 posted on 12/04/2007 11:51:52 AM PST by SJackson (I really wish the Jews in Judea an independent nation, John Adams)
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To: rineaux
Do you know how many people go to moveon? If only 2-3% of them gave $10 it would be a good chunk of change. Who else but a moveoner would give to an anti-American like cut and run?
71 posted on 12/04/2007 11:52:11 AM PST by John D
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To: incindiary

Anybody who wants to cut off the money to supply our troops who are in harms way what they need to survive and win the WOT is anti-American. Cut and run and his democratic allies are anti-American.


72 posted on 12/04/2007 11:55:58 AM PST by John D
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To: incindiary

Cut and run said it was the United States that was to blame for 9/11 because we did not do enough to appease his terrorist buddies. Is that not blaming America first. He never blames the terrorists, only America.


73 posted on 12/04/2007 11:58:45 AM PST by John D
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To: mnehrling
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008

2008 PRESIDENTIAL RACE Contributions from Selected Industries
74 posted on 12/04/2007 12:00:06 PM PST by mosquitobite (The penalty for refusing to participate in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors)
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To: SJackson
He didn’t say anything about neocons here. He has in the past said things about the influence of neoconservatives on this administration, which would be pretty hard to deny given its big-government approach to both domestic and foreign policy.
75 posted on 12/04/2007 12:06:38 PM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: mosquitobite
That listing represents listed employers, not necessarily if he received money for lobbying or if a lobbyist listed a different type of employment, such as lawyer (common cross-over.) For the latter, for example, Paul received a little over eighty-two thousand in donations.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K02

..and this is just for the 08 election cycle.. it doesn’t really go into his history.

76 posted on 12/04/2007 12:07:34 PM PST by mnehring
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To: John D
Cut and run said it was the United States that was to blame for 9/11 because we did not do enough to appease his terrorist buddies. Is that not blaming America first. He never blames the terrorists, only America.

No, he said that an intervenionist foreign policy has consequences. Please answer with a yes or no, does a foreign policy EVER have negative consequences? It is the Bush/Clinton foreign policy he disagrees with, not America. Once again, you are trying to make America synonymous with a particular foreign policy - that is either dishonest or ignorant.

77 posted on 12/04/2007 12:07:57 PM PST by incindiary
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To: incindiary
The implication there is that ANY foreign policy that America goes by is automatically right.

Dunno where you get that from my post. I was referrering to Paul's blaming America for terrorism.

78 posted on 12/04/2007 12:33:19 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: John D
Hopefully run third party and take all the anti-American cowards votes away from whoever wins the democratic nomination.

Didn't Ronnie at one time say he wouldn't run third party? Not sure of that. But that wouldn't make any difference anyway. Maybe he'll run with Kucinich as his Veep. (What a pair!)

79 posted on 12/04/2007 12:37:42 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: incindiary
Please answer with a yes or no, does a foreign policy EVER have negative consequences?

Yes it could have negative consequences, but that does not explain why cut and run continues to blame America for 9/11. Punishing a child for misbehaving CAN have negative consequences, but that does not mean it is wrong to punish him.
80 posted on 12/04/2007 12:41:47 PM PST by John D
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